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further information, said that when he came to have further intercourse
with the people he thought differently of Mr. Neuinan.
Mr. BOWEN. 1 am very glad he did. He was a devoted friend of
the Queen.
Senator FEYE. Then he would not have cheated her?
Mr. BOWEN. No; he thought this the best plan. And if it had
taken place, there would have been a saving of all the subsequent
trouble.
Senator FRYE. IS there anything else in the report to which you
desire to call attention?
Mr. BOWEN. Nothing, except to say that I did not represent myself
as being there in a diplomatic capacity; that 1 was there simply as I
have represented to this committee—as a journalist. Mr. Blount
states that in his report. I was not conducting any annexation propaganda;
I had no such purpose; and Mr. Sewall took no part in the
matter, and knew practically nothing about it.
Senator FRYE. Are there any facts connected with the affairs of the
Hawaiian Islands which you desire to state?
Mr. BOWEN. Only impressions. ' I was not there during the revolution.
I was informed by numbers of the Provisional Government, in
response to questions, that the American minister did not conspire to
overthrow the Queen. I was informed that he did practically as he
has stated in his own report. I was told so under certain circumstances
and there was no reason for deceiving me.
Senator FRYE. Did Paul Neuman make any claim that the minister
interfered to destroy the royal government?
Mr. BOWEN. He did not. Paul Neuman is a good-natured man, personally
not prejudiced against anybody, that is, individuals; but he
disliked the so-called "Missionary Party" there and the Annexation
Party, and he included Mr. Stevens among them. Paul Neuman was
always consistent. He was always a friend of the Queen, and he was
head and shoulders intellectually above any others of her supporters.
He was intelligent enough to form opinions during his stay here in
Washington, and to see that there were great difficulties in the way of
restoration; and while he did not commit himself to me on the subject,
he thought that this course for pensioning the Queen would be the best
for all concerned.
SWORN STATEMENT OF M. STALKER—Continued.
Senator GRAY. Tou have already been sworn, and you have read
over your testimony given the other day. Have you any special correction
to make ?
Mr. STALKER. NO; nothing special.
Senator GRAY. There was another point about which you spoke to
me after having read over your testimony. It was in regard to a question
that had been asked you, a point which you had touched upon,
as to impressions which you derived from those who were supporters
of the Provisional Government. In regard to the impression
that prevailed with regard to the ability of the supporters of the Provisional
Government to maintain themselves without the aid of the
United States troops. Have you anything more to Bay on that subject?
Mr. STALKEE. I did receive the impression from that source that
the Provisional Government would not have been able to maintain
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itself and keep its supporters, or, rather, its defenders, together without
the cooperation of the United States troops.
Senator GRAY. Do you mean that you gathered that impression from
those who were favorable to or supporters of the Provisional Government?
Mr. STALKEE. Yes.
Senator GEAY. Was the impression gathered that the movement
they made depended on the presence of those troops for encouragement,
morally or otherwise?
Mr. STALKEE. I can not say that I was told that the original movement
depended upon the presence of the troops, but rather their ability
to maintain their hold without the presence of the troops after it had
been acquired.
Senator GEAY. It was with reference to that?
Mr. STALKEE. Yes; with reference to that, especially.
Senator GEAY. Is there any other point on which you wish to be
more explicit?
Mr. STALKEE. I might say that I received these statements definitely
from one or two members of the Provisional Government, or, at least,
active supporters and cooperators.
Senator GEAY. Will you be good enough to state what opinion or
impression you got when you went there as to the ability of the existing
Government to maintain peace and order and protect life and property?
Mr. STALKEE. I never heard that fact called in question.
Senator GEAY. YOU mean the fact of the ability of the Government?
Mr. STALKEE. The fact of the ability of the existing Government to
maintain order and protect life and property. In fact, I have heard it
repeated by citizens of the country, without respect entirely to their
political affiliations, that there is no part of the civilized world where
life and property were so secure as in that country.
Senator GEAY. Would that tally with your own observation during
the weeks that you were there before this revolution ?
Mr. STALKEE. Yes; I think it would.
Senator GEAY. Was there any evidence of any disorder up to the
landing of troops on that Monday, the 16th of January—any disorder
or feeling of insecurity?
Mr. STALKEE. None whatever that I observed.
Senator FEYE. What are you professor of?
Mr. STALKEE. I am professor of veterinary science.
Senator FEYE. Veterinary surgeon?
Mr. STALKER. Yes.
Senator FEYE. Where did you live when you were in the islands?
Mr. STALKEE. At the Hawaiian Hotel?
Senator FEYE. That is the royalist hotel?
Mr. STALKEE. Yes.
Senator FEYE. Did Mr. English live there at the same time?
Mr. STALKEE. Yes.
Senator FEYE. Were you and Mr. English on intimate terms?
Mr. STALKEE. No.
Senator FEYE. You were not?
Mr. STALKEE. I can not say that we were.
Senator FEYE. Did you not have daily conversations with him?
Mr. STALKEE. No.
Senator FEYE. Did you not ultimately suggest to him that he come
over and become a professor in the college where you were?
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