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1158 HAWAIIAN ISLANDS.
Mr. LUDLOW. Yes; when called upon.
The CHAIRMAN. Very good. When you go ashore do you take your
flag?
Mr. LTJDLOW. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. For what purpose?
Mr. LITDLOW. AS an insignia of who we are.
The CHAIRMAN. As an emblem of authority?
Mr. LUDLOW. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. IS there any difference between holding it on a pole
in your hand, or hoisting it at a post?
Mr. LUDLOW. Yes; there is a difference.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the difference?
Mr. LUDLOW. The difference in this case is that there was no post
established where that flag was.
The CHAIRMAN. Where was it?
Mr. LUDLOW. Over the Government building.
The CHAIRMAN. But the Hawaiian flag was with our flag?
Mr. LUDLOW. NO; the American flag was not hoisted until the
Hawaiian flag was hauled down.
The CHAIRMAN. In that particular your testimony is different from
that of other witnesses who have appeared here.
Mr. LUDLOW. There was but one flag flying there. It was visible
from the harbor. It was flying from the cupola—the steeple.
The CHAIRMAN. Was there a Hawaiian flag displayed about the
Government building at the time the United States flag was there?
Mr. LUDLOW. 1 did not see any.
The CHAIRMAN. Are you certain it was not so? A number of witnesses
have testified it was so.
Mr. LUDLOW. Then they had it hidden somewhere. It was not in a
prominent place—that is, a prominent place, similar to the flag that is
flying over the Senate wing of the Capitol.
The CHAIRMAN. Can you tell how many flags are flying on this
Capitol now?
Mr. LUDLOW. I suppose there are two.
The CHAIRMAN. Suppose you were told that there were.four, would
you not be surprised ?
Mr. LUDLOW. TWO are all that 1 have noticed.
The CHAIRMAN. There are four, and you have noticed only two.
When you were there in the Hawaiian Islands did you make the
acquaintance, socially, of Mr. Wilson, the commander in chief of the
police?
Mr. LUDLOW. Mr. Wilson is out of office. I do not think I ever saw
him.
The CHAIRMAN. YOU did not have any conversation with him about
the state of affairs in Hawaii?
Mr. LUDLOW. NO. That was all in the hands of the United States
diplomatic agents on shore. We had nothing whatever to do with
that; we had to mind our own business.
Senator FRYB. I desire to call attention to a very important communication
from Mr. S. M. Castle, whom we all know as one of the
best men in the Hawaiian Islands. It gives a brief history of the
French and English attempts to take possession of those islands, and
of the English hoisting a flag and its being lowered again. It is a very
interesting document, and I think it ought to be incorporated in our
record.
The CHAIRMAN. That order will be made.
HAWAIIAN ISLANDS. 11J>9
The document is as follows:
MEMORANDA AND REMINISCENCES OF INCIDENTS IN HAWAIIAN
HISTORY, BY S. N. CASTLE.
As some of the incidents which I may mention are entirely personal,
and the inquiry will naturally arise as to their credibility, it will not be
thought egotistical or indelicate for me to speak first of myself, so that
any person reading these memoranda can judge of their credibility.
My circumstances have been favorable both for hearing and seeing and
for acquiring information generally upon matters spoken of. In July,
1836,1 received the appointment of secular or financial agent of the
American Board of Commissioners for Foreign Missions for these
islands. Sailing from Boston December, 1830, and arriving April 9,
1837,1 was identified with the mission, whose temporal necessities I
came to provide for, of course, and the nature of my work also identified
me at once with the business community.
For fourteen years I was devoted solely to the work of my agency.
At the end of this time, at the suggestion and by the wish of the American
board, Mr. Cooke, my assistant in the agency, and myself established
the mercantile house of Castle & Cooke, which has now been in
operation for thirty-two years. I continued to act as agent for thirtytwo
years from the date of my appointment. Thus I have been identified
with this business community for forty-six years. I think there
are none remaining but myself of those who were prominent in business.
One house remains, but with no original partner. I have been
honored by my fellow residents with various honorary positions, as
president of the Chamber of Commerce, etc., and also in other than
business relations in the political, religious, and other organizations.
The institutions of the country when I came here were in a formative
state, and as I came in a responsible and fiduciary character it was
natural that I should be sometimes consulted and my counsel sought
in matters in which 1 was supposed to be more fully informed than
those who, from their circumstances, had not had so good opportunities
of information as I have enjoyed.
I was invited to honorable positions in the Government service which
I declined, but did not hesitate to give my opinion when it was sought
upon political, religious, or civil topics, and thus I became acquainted
with many things of which I should have known nothing in other circumstances.
My position as a privy counselor and noble has added
to my opportunities of learning the political status of the country.
In forming my opinion of the purposes of France and Great Britain
respecting these islands in the past, I have been influenced by the tendency
of events as well as utterances, either oral or written, of both
France and Great Britain for the last forty years. They have been
particularly active in extending their colonial system among the islands
of the Pacific, and their dealings with these islands as well as some
utterances, have looked to the same result; while the relations of the
United States have seemed to be more those of a guardian for its ward,
though notunmiugled with interest, for the great body of its commerce
has always been American. But, aside from this, citizens of the United
States have spent millions of money as well as years of weary labor in
Christianizing and civilizing the people; in giving them a written language,
and books, and schools, and churches, and laws, as well as a
civil polity, in making them what they are; and her military and naval

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 {{p|1158}}
-Mr. LUDLOW.  Yes; when called upon.
+The {{sc|Chairman.}} Very good. When you go ashore do you
 take your flag?
-Mr. LUDLOW.  Yes.
+Mr. {{sc|Ludlow.}} Yes.
-The CHAIRMAN.  For what purpose?
+The {{sc|Chairman.}} For what purpose?
-Mr. LUDLOW.  As an insignia of who we are.
+Mr. {{sc|Ludlow.}} As an insignia of who we are.
-The CHAIRMAN.   As an emblem of authority?
+The {{sc|Chairman.}} As an emblem of authority?
-Mr. LUDLOW.  Yes.
+Mr. {{sc|Ludlow.}} Yes.
-The CHAIRMAN.  Is there any difference between holding
+The {{sc|Chairman.}} Is there any difference between holding
 it on a pole in your
 hand, or hoisting it at a post?
-Mr. LUDLOW.  Yes; there is a difference.
+Mr. {{sc|Ludlow.}} Yes; there is a difference.
-The CHAIRMAN.  What is the difference?
+The {{sc|Chairman.}} What is the difference?
-Mr. LUDLOW.  The difference in this case is that there
+Mr. {{sc|Ludlow.}} The difference in this case is that there
 was no post
 established where that flag was.
-The CHAIRMAN.  Where was it?
+The {{sc|Chairman.}} Where was it?
-Mr. LUDLOW.  Over the Government building.
+Mr. {{sc|Ludlow.}} Over the Government building.
-The CHAIRMAN.  But the Hawaiian flag was with our
+The {{sc|Chairman.}} But the Hawaiian flag was with our
 flag?
-Mr. LUDLOW.  No; the American flag was not hoisted
+Mr. {{sc|Ludlow.}} No; the American flag was not hoisted
 until the Hawaiian flag
 was hauled down.
-The CHAIRMAN.  In that particular your testimony is
+The {{sc|Chairman.}} In that particular your testimony is
 different from that of
 other witnesses who have appeared here.
-Mr. LUDLOW.  There was but one flag flying there. It
+Mr. {{sc|Ludlow.}} There was but one flag flying there. It
 was visible from the
-harbor. It was flying from the cupola---- the steeple.
+harbor. It was flying from the cupola-the steeple.
-The CHAIRMAN.  Was there a Hawaiian flag displayed
+The {{sc|Chairman.}} Was there a Hawaiian flag displayed
 about the Government
 building at the time the United States flag was there?
-Mr. LUDLOW.  I did not see any.
+Mr. {{sc|Ludlow.}} I did not see any.
-The CHAIRMAN.  Are you certain it was not so?  A
+The {{sc|Chairman.}} Are you certain it was not so?  A
 number of witnesses have
 testified it was so.
-Mr. LUDLOW.  Then they had it hidden somewhere. It was
+Mr. {{sc|Ludlow.}} Then they had it hidden somewhere. It was
 not in a prominent
-place---- that is, a prominent place, similar to the flag
+place-that is, a prominent place, similar to the flag
 that is flying over
 the Senate wing of the Capitol.
-The CHAIRMAN.  Can you tell how many flags are flying
+The {{sc|Chairman.}} Can you tell how many flags are flying
 on this Capitol now?
-Mr. LUDLOW.  I suppose there are two.
+Mr. {{sc|Ludlow.}} I suppose there are two.
-The CHAIRMAN.  Suppose you were told that there were
+The {{sc|Chairman.}} Suppose you were told that there were
 four, would you not be
 surprised?
-Mr. LUDLOW.  Two are all that I have noticed.
+Mr. {{sc|Ludlow.}} Two are all that I have noticed.
-The CHAIRMAN.  There are four, and you have noticed
+The {{sc|Chairman.}} There are four, and you have noticed
 only two.  When you were
 there in the Hawaiian Islands did you make the
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 Mr. Wilson, the commander in chief of the police?
-Mr. LUDLOW.  Mr. Wilson is out of office. I do not
+Mr. {{sc|Ludlow.}} Mr. Wilson is out of office. I do not
 think I ever saw him.
-The CHAIRMAN.  You did not have any conversation with
+The {{sc|Chairman.}} You did not have any conversation with
 him about the state of
 affairs in Hawaii?
-Mr. LUDLOW.  No. That was all in the hands of the
+Mr. {{sc|Ludlow.}} No. That was all in the hands of the
 United States diplomatic
 agents on shore.  We had nothing whatever to do with
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 our own business.
-Senator FRYE.  I desire to call attention to a very
+Senator {{sc|Frye.}} I desire to call attention to a very
 important communication
 from Mr. S.M. Castle, whom we all know as one of the
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 think it ought to be incorporated in our record.
-The CHAIRMAN.  That order will be made.
+The {{sc|Chairman.}} That order will be made.
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 The document is as follows:
-MEMORANDA AND REMINISCENCES OF INCIDENTS IN HAWAIIAN HISTORY, BY S.N. CASTLE.
+===MEMORANDA AND REMINISCENCES OF INCIDENTS IN HAWAIIAN HISTORY, BY S.N. CASTLE.===
 As some of the incidents which I may mention are
 entirely personal, and
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 In forming my opinion of the purposes of France
 and Great Britain
-respecting these islands in the past, I have been
+respecting these islands ''in the past'', I have been
 influenced by the tendency
 of events as well as utterances, either oral or
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 American.   But, aside
 from this, citizens of the United States have spent
-millions of money as
+''millions of money'' as
-well as years of weary labor in Christianizing and
+well as ''years of weary labor'' in Christianizing and
 civilizing the people; in
 giving them a written language, and books, and