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556 HAWAIIAN ISLANDS.
with the second or third, according to my recollection af the chronology,
the King began introducing the missionaries into his cabinet, his
council1?
Mr. EMERSON. Kamehameha III.
The CHAIRMAN. Yes, one of them remained there a long while as
chief of a department of the Government.
Mr. EMEKSON. Yes, they resigned their missionary relations.
The CHAIRMAN. They gave up their missionary relations and became
chiefs of the Government?
Mr. EMERSON. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. Baring all the time of the existence of these monarchy,
these Kings, was there any want of confidence between the
monarch and the white element ? When I speak of the white element,
I mean those who are in favor of good government and religion. Was
there any conflict between these Kamehamehas, or Lunalilo, and the
white missionaries, and those persons who where associated with them?
Mr. EMERSON. I think there was no conflict except on moral points.
The missionaries were their most stanch supporters—loyal subjects.
The CHAIRMAN. I want to know whether there was harmony of
action between the Hawaiians and Kamehamehas and Lunalilo during
their respective reigns.
Mr. EMERSON. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. Then it was later that the controversy arose between
the Crown and the missionary or white element?
Mr. EMERSON. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. It arose then, as I understand it, during the of Kalakaua? reign
Mr. EMERSON. Kamehameha V proclaimed a more autocratic constitution.
He was criticised. We felt that he was somewhat of a
heathen. In 1868 he granted these licenses to the native sorcerers.
We felt that he was a man of great force of will. We felt that he was
rather introducing heathen elements. Although he was not squarely,
flatly against the missionaries, yet they were not so much in sympathy
wtih him as they were with Kamehameha III and Kamehameha IV.
The CHAIRMAN. Kamehameha V gave the new constitution ?
Mr. EMERSON. Yes.
anTy hceh aCnHgAeI ?R MAN. When Kalakaua was put on the throne, was there
Mr. EMERSON. NO.
The CHAIRMAN. It was when Kalakaua was chosen king that the
constitution of 1864 was changed?
Mr. EMERSON. The coup d'etat of Kamehameha V was in 1864, and
that constitution continued until 1887.
The CHAIRMAN. The point I was trying to get at is this, whether the
first political disturbance between the white element and the monarchy
was during the reign of Kalakaua.
Mr. EMERSON. Yes.
turTbhuel eCnHt?A IRMAN. And from that time to this it has been more or less
Mr. EMERSON. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. And this present revolution is the fruit or result of
political movements that took place in the beginning of the reign of
Kalakaua ?
Mr. EMERSON. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. And not before?
Mr. EMERSON. I think not before. In 1854 I believe there was talk
HAWAIIAN ISLANDS. 557
of a change of government. That was because of certain difficulties that
the King had with foreign relations, not internal relations, as I understand
it.
The CHAIRMAN. During all this period of time has there been, within
your knowledge or belief, according to your understanding, a party
of white people existing in Hawaii for the purpose of annexing Hawaii
to the United States ?
Mr. EMERSON. I think there has been, during the latter part of the
reign of Kalakaua. I think there were people who looked to ultimate
annexation.
The CHAIRMAN. Was that because of designs on their part to overthrow
the Government and force annexation, or because they were
despairing of the power of the native element to rule?
Mr. EMERSON. I think the feeling was this: " Just so long as the present
Government continues, let us be loyal to that." I think that was
the feeling of these men who finally achieved the revolution.
The CHAIRMAN. They had been anticipating the fall of the dynasty ?
Mr. EMERSON. Yes. Some felt that Kalakaua ought to be the last.
That was the feeling of a great many.
The CHAIRMAN. Anticipating the fall of the Hawaiian dynasty—the
monarchy?
Mr. EMERSON. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. And that led to the expectation—an earnest one—
and hope that the result would be that the Hawaiian Islands would be
annexed to the United States ?
Mr. EMERSON. Coupled with that anticipation of the downfall of the
dynasty, was the wasting away of the Hawaiian people, ceasing to be
the dominant people.
The CHAIRMAN. That is what you have been looking to all the time?
Mr. EMERSON. Yes.
Senator GRAY. YOU think there was a distinct party there called the
annexation party, or that the policy of annexation was approved by
some people ?
Mr. EMERSON. I do not know of a distinct party that was crystalized,
but there was that talk.
The CHAIRMAN. What was the sentiment that you gathered from
your association with the people over there, in the event that the
Hawaiian monarchy is to perish; whether those people would prefer to
place themselves within the protection of the United States or Great
Britain, or Germany, or France, or Japan, or any other place?
Mr. EMERSON. SO far as I have talked with my friends (and they put
a good many questions to me in regard to this matter), I feel that they
prize above all other things annexation to this country, that is, under
the situation, seeing that they can not carry things themselves. The
Hawaiian would prefer to have the prominence which he has lost. But
that he can never regain, and my sentiment is, and so far as I have
talked with them I have so expressed it, that they should get as near
to the United States as they can, saying, " You will then have as fully
as you can your rights of suffrage."
Senator GRAY. Prior to that emeute of Saturday, when trouble
commenced, was a majority of the people of Hawaii opposing the Queen
and in favor of annexing Hawaii to the United States?
Mr. EMERSON. Oh, no.
The CHAIRMAN. YOU mean all the people?

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+Mr. {{sc|Emerson.}} No.
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-HAWAIIAN ISLANDS.
+{{p|556}}
 with the second or third, according to my recollection af the chronology,
-the King began introducing the missionaries into his cabinet, his
+with the second or third, according to my recollection af the chronology, the King began introducing the missionaries into his cabinet, his council?
-council1?
 Mr. EMERSON. Kamehameha III.
 The CHAIRMAN. Yes, one of them remained there a long while as
-chief of a department of the Government.
+The CHAIRMAN. Yes, one of them remained there a long while as chief of a department of the Government.
-Mr. EMEKSON. Yes, they resigned their missionary relations.
-The CHAIRMAN. They gave up their missionary relations and became
+Mr. EMERSON. Yes, they resigned their missionary relations.
 chiefs of the Government?
-Mr. EMERSON. Yes.
+The CHAIRMAN. They gave up their missionary relations and became chiefs of the Government?
-The CHAIRMAN. Baring all the time of the existence of these monarchy,
-these Kings, was there any want of confidence between the
+Mr. EMERSON. Yes.
 monarch and the white element ? When I speak of the white element,
-I mean those who are in favor of good government and religion. Was
+The CHAIRMAN. During all the time of the existence of these monarchs, these Kings, was there any want of confidence between the monarch and the white element? When I speak of the white element, I mean those who are in favor of good government and religion. Was there any conflict between these Kamehamehas, or Lunalilo, and the white missionaries, and those persons who where associated with them?
 there any conflict between these Kamehamehas, or Lunalilo, and the
-white missionaries, and those persons who where associated with them?
+Mr. EMERSON. I think there was no conflict except on moral points. The missionaries were their most stanch supporters—loyal subjects.
 Mr. EMERSON. I think there was no conflict except on moral points.
-The missionaries were their most stanch supporters—loyal subjects.
+The CHAIRMAN. I want to know whether there was harmony of action between the Hawaiians and Kamehamehas and Lunalilo during their respective reigns.
 The CHAIRMAN. I want to know whether there was harmony of
-action between the Hawaiians and Kamehamehas and Lunalilo during
+Mr. EMERSON. Yes.
 their respective reigns.
-Mr. EMERSON. Yes.
+The CHAIRMAN. Then it was later that the controversy arose between the Crown and the missionary or white element?
 The CHAIRMAN. Then it was later that the controversy arose between
-the Crown and the missionary or white element?
+Mr. EMERSON. Yes.
 Mr. EMERSON. Yes.
-The CHAIRMAN. It arose then, as I understand it, during the of Kalakaua? reign
+The CHAIRMAN. It arose then, as I understand it, during the reign of Kalakaua?
 Mr. EMERSON. Kamehameha V proclaimed a more autocratic constitution.
-He was criticised. We felt that he was somewhat of a
+Mr. EMERSON. Kamehameha V proclaimed a more autocratic constitution. He was criticised. We felt that he was somewhat of a heathen. In 1868 he granted these licenses to the native sorcerers. We felt that he was a man of great force of will. We felt that he was rather introducing heathen elements. Although he was not squarely, flatly against the missionaries, yet they were not so much in sympathy wtih him as they were with Kamehameha III and Kamehameha IV.
 heathen. In 1868 he granted these licenses to the native sorcerers.
-We felt that he was a man of great force of will. We felt that he was
+The CHAIRMAN. Kamehameha V gave the new constitution?
 rather introducing heathen elements. Although he was not squarely,
-flatly against the missionaries, yet they were not so much in sympathy
+Mr. EMERSON. Yes.
 wtih him as they were with Kamehameha III and Kamehameha IV.
-The CHAIRMAN. Kamehameha V gave the new constitution ?
+The CHAIRMAN. When Kalakaua was put on the throne, was there any change?
 Mr. EMERSON. Yes.
-anTy hceh aCnHgAeI ?R MAN. When Kalakaua was put on the throne, was there
+Mr. EMERSON. NO.
 Mr. EMERSON. NO.
-The CHAIRMAN. It was when Kalakaua was chosen king that the
+The CHAIRMAN. It was when Kalakaua was chosen king that the constitution of 1864 was changed?
 constitution of 1864 was changed?
-Mr. EMERSON. The coup d'etat of Kamehameha V was in 1864, and
+Mr. EMERSON. The ''coup d'etat'' of Kamehameha V was in 1864, and that constitution continued until 1887.
 that constitution continued until 1887.
-The CHAIRMAN. The point I was trying to get at is this, whether the
+The CHAIRMAN. The point I was trying to get at is this, whether the first political disturbance between the white element and the monarchy was during the reign of Kalakaua.
 first political disturbance between the white element and the monarchy
-was during the reign of Kalakaua.
+Mr. EMERSON. Yes.
 Mr. EMERSON. Yes.
-turTbhuel eCnHt?A IRMAN. And from that time to this it has been more or less
+The CHAIRMAN. And from that time to this it has been more or less turbulent?
 Mr. EMERSON. Yes.
-The CHAIRMAN. And this present revolution is the fruit or result of
+Mr. EMERSON. Yes.
 political movements that took place in the beginning of the reign of
-Kalakaua ?
+The CHAIRMAN. And this present revolution is the fruit or result of political movements that took place in the beginning of the reign of Kalakaua?
 Mr. EMERSON. Yes.
-The CHAIRMAN. And not before?
+Mr. EMERSON. Yes.
 Mr. EMERSON. I think not before. In 1854 I believe there was talk
-HAWAIIAN ISLANDS. 557
+The CHAIRMAN. And not before?
 of a change of government. That was because of certain difficulties that
-the King had with foreign relations, not internal relations, as I understand
+Mr. EMERSON. I think not before. In 1854 I believe there was talk
 it.
-The CHAIRMAN. During all this period of time has there been, within
+{{p|557}}
 your knowledge or belief, according to your understanding, a party
-of white people existing in Hawaii for the purpose of annexing Hawaii
+of a change of government. That was because of certain difficulties that the King had with foreign relations, not internal relations, as I understand it.
 to the United States ?
-Mr. EMERSON. I think there has been, during the latter part of the
+The CHAIRMAN. During all this period of time has there been, within your knowledge or belief, according to your understanding, a party of white people existing in Hawaii for the purpose of annexing Hawaii to the United States?
 reign of Kalakaua. I think there were people who looked to ultimate
-annexation.
+Mr. EMERSON. I think there has been, during the latter part of the reign of Kalakaua. I think there were people who looked to ultimate annexation.
 The CHAIRMAN. Was that because of designs on their part to overthrow
-the Government and force annexation, or because they were
+The CHAIRMAN. Was that because of designs on their part to overthrow the Government and force annexation, or because they were despairing of the power of the native element to rule?
 despairing of the power of the native element to rule?
-Mr. EMERSON. I think the feeling was this: " Just so long as the present
+Mr. EMERSON. I think the feeling was this: " Just so long as the present Government continues, let us be loyal to that." I think that was the feeling of these men who finally achieved the revolution.
 Government continues, let us be loyal to that." I think that was
-the feeling of these men who finally achieved the revolution.
+The CHAIRMAN. They had been anticipating the fall of the dynasty?
 The CHAIRMAN. They had been anticipating the fall of the dynasty ?
-Mr. EMERSON. Yes. Some felt that Kalakaua ought to be the last.
+Mr. EMERSON. Yes. Some felt that Kalakaua ought to be the last. That was the feeling of a great many.
 That was the feeling of a great many.
-The CHAIRMAN. Anticipating the fall of the Hawaiian dynasty—the
+The CHAIRMAN. Anticipating the fall of the Hawaiian dynasty—the monarchy?
 monarchy?
 Mr. EMERSON. Yes.
 The CHAIRMAN. And that led to the expectation—an earnest one—
-and hope that the result would be that the Hawaiian Islands would be
+The CHAIRMAN. And that led to the expectation—an earnest one— and hope that the result would be that the Hawaiian Islands would be annexed to the United States?
 annexed to the United States ?
-Mr. EMERSON. Coupled with that anticipation of the downfall of the
+Mr. EMERSON. Coupled with that anticipation of the downfall of the dynasty, was the wasting away of the Hawaiian people, ceasing to be the dominant people.
 dynasty, was the wasting away of the Hawaiian people, ceasing to be
-the dominant people.
+The CHAIRMAN. That is what you have been looking to all the time?
 The CHAIRMAN. That is what you have been looking to all the time?
 Mr. EMERSON. Yes.
-Senator GRAY. YOU think there was a distinct party there called the
-annexation party, or that the policy of annexation was approved by
+Senator GRAY. You think there was a distinct party there called the annexation party, or that the policy of annexation was approved by some people?
 some people ?
-Mr. EMERSON. I do not know of a distinct party that was crystalized,
+Mr. EMERSON. I do not know of a distinct party that was crystalized, but there was that talk.
 but there was that talk.
-The CHAIRMAN. What was the sentiment that you gathered from
+The CHAIRMAN. What was the sentiment that you gathered from your association with the people over there, in the event that the Hawaiian monarchy is to perish; whether those people would prefer to place themselves within the protection of the United States or Great Britain, or Germany, or France, or Japan, or any other place?
 your association with the people over there, in the event that the
-Hawaiian monarchy is to perish; whether those people would prefer to
+Mr. EMERSON. So far as I have talked with my friends (and they put a good many questions to me in regard to this matter), I feel that they prize above all other things annexation to this country, that is, under the situation, seeing that they can not carry things themselves. The Hawaiian would prefer to have the prominence which he has lost. But that he can never regain, and my sentiment is, and so far as I have talked with them I have so expressed it, that they should get as near to the United States as they can, saying, " You will then have as fully as you can your rights of suffrage."
 place themselves within the protection of the United States or Great
-Britain, or Germany, or France, or Japan, or any other place?
+Senator GRAY. Prior to that emeute of Saturday, when trouble commenced, was a majority of the people of Hawaii opposing the Queen and in favor of annexing Hawaii to the United States?
-Mr. EMERSON. SO far as I have talked with my friends (and they put
-a good many questions to me in regard to this matter), I feel that they
+Mr. EMERSON. Oh, no.
 prize above all other things annexation to this country, that is, under
-the situation, seeing that they can not carry things themselves. The
+The CHAIRMAN. You mean all the people?