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620 HAWAIIAN ISLANDS.
on our business it would be necessary to have some advantage, just as
the State of Louisiana has some advantage, because she has to pay
more for labor than is paid in other sugar-producing countries.
The CHAIRMAN. How are the men in this present Government1?
Mr. SPALDING. The four men in office there are four as good men as
we have in the country.
The CHAIRMAN. YOU mean the advisory council?
Mr. SPALDING. The advisory council is made up of as good men as
are in Honolulu.
The CHAIRMAN. Who are the four men?
Mr. SPALDING. The executive officers.
Senator FRYE. YOU can not And better in any country?
Mr. SPALDING. NO. Dole is a man; a lawyer of ability. He was
upon the supreme bench for years, and is a man of integrity and character.
The CHAIRMAN. Your supreme court, how is that?
Mr. SPALDING. The chief justice is a son of Dr. Judd, who was one
of the early missionaries to go out there. He belonged to what we call
the lay missionaries. He was not a minister. Old Dr. Judd, as he was
called, was the private adviser of King Kauikeaouli in his questions
with Great Britain; and this chief justice is the son of that man.
The CHAIRMAN. IS the chief justice a man of ability?
Mr. SPALDING. Of ability, aud has always given good satisfaction.
If anything, he has a leaning to the native population. He has always
been considered, perhaps, the greatest friend, the most consistent, the
best friend of the native population of any white man in the country.
He has been noted for that.
The CHAIRMAN. Take the conduct of these men called missionaries
and of those who were their associates in the Government, would you
say that their motives, as indicated by their acts, were in favor of building
up enlightenment and the establishment of all the higher virtues in
the people of Hawaii, the Kanakas, or were they in the other direction?
Mr. SPALDING. I should say they were more in favor of the develop,
ment of the best interests of the country, and especially of the native
population.
The CHAIRMAN. IS there any sentiment of hostility amongst those
people toward the native population?
Mr. SPALDING. Among the missionaries?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes.
Mr. SPALDING. Quite to the contrary. They have not only been the
most intelligent and most business-like men that we have had, but men
of the highest integrity.
The CHAIRMAN. YOU have not been connected with the church in
any way.
Mr. SPALDING. No; I have not been considered as belonging to the
missionary element, but I have always had a high respect for the work
that has been done there.
The CHAIRMAN. I suppose the fact is that the missionaries have
done all the work that has been done there.
Mr. SPALDING. Yes. Some of the others have gathered in without
scattering so much; but the missionaries have always done everything
in their power to benefit the native population.
Senator GRAY. YOU went out there iu 18G7 as the special agent of
the State Department, under Mr. Seward?
Mr. SPALDING. Yes.
HAWAIIAN ISLANDS. 621
Senator GRAY. Was that before the treaty of reciprocity?
Mr. SPALDING. Before the treaty of reciprocity.
Senator GRAY. And your instructions were verbal?
Mr. SPALDING. My instructions were verbal. I went out as a bearer
of dispatches, ostensibly.
Senator GRAY. You say you had a general letter; of what kind?
Mr. SPALDING. I had a general passport from the State Department
allowing me to go anywhere over the world.
Senator GRAY. Had you any special instructions to the Minister?
Mr. SPALDING. I had only to carry to the Minister the key of the
State Department code. That was the.ostensible mission on which I
was sent; but the real mission was to inform the Secretary himself, not
the State Department, what the feeling of the country was and what
effect this reciprocity treaty would have upon the two countries. I
reported adversely to the reciprocity treaty on the ground that I
thought it would perhaps impede or prevent annexation of that country
in the near future. But in one of my letters from the Secretary he
told me that the plan which I had suggested could not be followed by
the United States at that time, as the public mind of the American
people was dweUing too much upon the settlement of the matters
growing out of the civil war, and they refused at that time to take up
the annexation of any foreign country.
Senator GRAY. Did you return in person with your report?
Mr. SPALDING. I came back to Washington to settle my accounts
after I gave up the consulate. I was appointed consul while I was out
there; in fact, I was left with the consulate and legation both, before I
was appointed consul.
Senator GRAY. Then you returned and made your business arrangements?
Mr. SPALDING. I came back to Washington and settled my accounts.
That, I think, was in 1870. But I had already made my arrangements
for starting in the sugar business, starting my plantation, and I have
been in it ever since.
Adjourned until to-morrow, the 3d inst., at 10 o'clock a. m.

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 on our business it would be necessary to have some advantage, just as the State of Louisiana has some advantage, because she has to pay more for labor than is paid in other sugar-producing countries.
-The CHAIRMAN. How are the men in this present Government?
+The {{sc|Chairman.}} How are the men in this present Government?
-Mr. SPALDING. The four men in office there are four as good men as we have in the country.
+Mr. {{sc|Spalding.}} The four men in office there are four as good men as we have in the country.
-The CHAIRMAN. You mean the advisory council?
+The {{sc|Chairman.}} You mean the advisory council?
-Mr. SPALDING. The advisory council is made up of as good men as are in Honolulu.
+Mr. {{sc|Spalding.}} The advisory council is made up of as good men as are in Honolulu.
-The CHAIRMAN. Who are the four men?
+The {{sc|Chairman.}} Who are the four men?
-Mr. SPALDING. The executive officers.
+Mr. {{sc|Spalding.}} The executive officers.
-Senator FRYE. You can not find better in any country?
+Senator {{sc|Frye.}} You can not find better in any country?
-Mr. SPALDING. No. Dole is a man; a lawyer of ability. He was upon the supreme bench for years, and is a man of integrity and character.
+Mr. {{sc|Spalding.}} No. Dole is a man; a lawyer of ability. He was upon the supreme bench for years, and is a man of integrity and character.
-The CHAIRMAN. Your supreme court, how is that?
+The {{sc|Chairman.}} Your supreme court, how is that?
-Mr. SPALDING. The chief justice is a son of Dr. Judd, who was one of the early missionaries to go out there. He belonged to what we call the lay missionaries. He was not a minister. Old Dr. Judd, as he was called, was the private adviser of King Kauikeaouli in his questions with Great Britain; and this chief justice is the son of that man.
+Mr. {{sc|Spalding.}} The chief justice is a son of Dr. Judd, who was one of the early missionaries to go out there. He belonged to what we call the lay missionaries. He was not a minister. Old Dr. Judd, as he was called, was the private adviser of King Kauikeaouli in his questions with Great Britain; and this chief justice is the son of that man.
-The CHAIRMAN. Is the chief justice a man of ability?
+The {{sc|Chairman.}} Is the chief justice a man of ability?
-Mr. SPALDING. Of ability, and has always given good satisfaction. If anything, he has a leaning to the native population. He has always been considered, perhaps, the greatest friend, the most consistent, the best friend of the native population of any white man in the country. He has been noted for that.
+Mr. {{sc|Spalding.}} Of ability, and has always given good satisfaction. If anything, he has a leaning to the native population. He has always been considered, perhaps, the greatest friend, the most consistent, the best friend of the native population of any white man in the country. He has been noted for that.
-The CHAIRMAN. Take the conduct of these men called missionaries and of those who were their associates in the Government, would you say that their motives, as indicated by their acts, were in favor of building up enlightenment and the establishment of all the higher virtues in the people of Hawaii, the Kanakas, or were they in the other direction?
+The {{sc|Chairman.}} Take the conduct of these men called missionaries and of those who were their associates in the Government, would you say that their motives, as indicated by their acts, were in favor of building up enlightenment and the establishment of all the higher virtues in the people of Hawaii, the Kanakas, or were they in the other direction?
-Mr. SPALDING. I should say they were more in favor of the development of the best interests of the country, and especially of the native population.
+Mr. {{sc|Spalding.}} I should say they were more in favor of the development of the best interests of the country, and especially of the native population.
-The CHAIRMAN. Is there any sentiment of hostility amongst those people toward the native population?
+The {{sc|Chairman.}} Is there any sentiment of hostility amongst those people toward the native population?
-Mr. SPALDING. Among the missionaries?
+Mr. {{sc|Spalding.}} Among the missionaries?
-The CHAIRMAN. Yes.
+The {{sc|Chairman.}} Yes.
-Mr. SPALDING. Quite to the contrary. They have not only been the most intelligent and most business-like men that we have had, but men of the highest integrity.
+Mr. {{sc|Spalding.}} Quite to the contrary. They have not only been the most intelligent and most business-like men that we have had, but men of the highest integrity.
-The CHAIRMAN. You have not been connected with the church in any way.
+The {{sc|Chairman.}} You have not been connected with the church in any way.
-Mr. SPALDING. No; I have not been considered as belonging to the missionary element, but I have always had a high respect for the work that has been done there.
+Mr. {{sc|Spalding.}} No; I have not been considered as belonging to the missionary element, but I have always had a high respect for the work that has been done there.
-The CHAIRMAN. I suppose the fact is that the missionaries have done all the work that has been done there.
+The {{sc|Chairman.}} I suppose the fact is that the missionaries have done all the work that has been done there.
-Mr. SPALDING. Yes. Some of the others have gathered in without scattering so much; but the missionaries have always done everything in their power to benefit the native population.
+Mr. {{sc|Spalding.}} Yes. Some of the others have gathered in without scattering so much; but the missionaries have always done everything in their power to benefit the native population.
-Senator GRAY. You went out there in 1867 as the special agent of the State Department, under Mr. Seward?
+Senator {{sc|Gray.}} You went out there in 1867 as the special agent of the State Department, under Mr. Seward?
-Mr. SPALDING. Yes.
+Mr. {{sc|Spalding.}} Yes.
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-Senator GRAY. Was that before the treaty of reciprocity?
+Senator {{sc|Gray.}} Was that before the treaty of reciprocity?
-Mr. SPALDING. Before the treaty of reciprocity.
+Mr. {{sc|Spalding.}} Before the treaty of reciprocity.
-Senator GRAY. And your instructions were verbal?
+Senator {{sc|Gray.}} And your instructions were verbal?
-Mr. SPALDING. My instructions were verbal. I went out as a bearer of dispatches, ostensibly.
+Mr. {{sc|Spalding.}} My instructions were verbal. I went out as a bearer of dispatches, ostensibly.
-Senator GRAY. You say you had a general letter; of what kind?
+Senator {{sc|Gray.}} You say you had a general letter; of what kind?
-Mr. SPALDING. I had a general passport from the State Department allowing me to go anywhere over the world.
+Mr. {{sc|Spalding.}} I had a general passport from the State Department allowing me to go anywhere over the world.
-Senator GRAY. Had you any special instructions to the Minister?
+Senator {{sc|Gray.}} Had you any special instructions to the Minister?
-Mr. SPALDING. I had only to carry to the Minister the key of the State Department code. That was the ostensible mission on which I was sent; but the real mission was to inform the Secretary himself, not the State Department, what the feeling of the country was and what effect this reciprocity treaty would have upon the two countries. I reported adversely to the reciprocity treaty on the ground that I thought it would perhaps impede or prevent annexation of that country in the near future. But in one of my letters from the Secretary he told me that the plan which I had suggested could not be followed by the United States at that time, as the public mind of the American people was dwelling too much upon the settlement of the matters growing out of the civil war, and they refused at that time to take up the annexation of any foreign country.
+Mr. {{sc|Spalding.}} I had only to carry to the Minister the key of the State Department code. That was the ostensible mission on which I was sent; but the real mission was to inform the Secretary himself, not the State Department, what the feeling of the country was and what effect this reciprocity treaty would have upon the two countries. I reported adversely to the reciprocity treaty on the ground that I thought it would perhaps impede or prevent annexation of that country in the near future. But in one of my letters from the Secretary he told me that the plan which I had suggested could not be followed by the United States at that time, as the public mind of the American people was dwelling too much upon the settlement of the matters growing out of the civil war, and they refused at that time to take up the annexation of any foreign country.
-Senator GRAY. Did you return in person with your report?
+Senator {{sc|Gray.}} Did you return in person with your report?
-Mr. SPALDING. I came back to Washington to settle my accounts after I gave up the consulate. I was appointed consul while I was out there; in fact, I was left with the consulate and legation both, before I was appointed consul.
+Mr. {{sc|Spalding.}} I came back to Washington to settle my accounts after I gave up the consulate. I was appointed consul while I was out there; in fact, I was left with the consulate and legation both, before I was appointed consul.
-Senator GRAY. Then you returned and made your business arrangements?
+Senator {{sc|Gray.}} Then you returned and made your business arrangements?
-Mr. SPALDING. I came back to Washington and settled my accounts. That, I think, was in 1870. But I had already made my arrangements for starting in the sugar business, starting my plantation, and I have been in it ever since.
+Mr. {{sc|Spalding.}} I came back to Washington and settled my accounts. That, I think, was in 1870. But I had already made my arrangements for starting in the sugar business, starting my plantation, and I have been in it ever since.
 Adjourned until to-morrow, the 3d inst., at 10 o'clock a. m.