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understand that I was there simply to protect American property and
life.
The CHAIRMAN. Did you gather the impression or belief there that
any members of the Queen's cabinet were in sympathy with this political
outbreak?
Mr. SWINBURNE. In sympathy with the Provisional Government?
Tlie CHAIRMAN. Yes.
Mr. SWINBURNE. Of the Queen's cabinet at that time?
The CHAIRMAN. For the purpose of overthrowing her, or for the purpose
of establishing a provisional government?
Mr. SWINBURNE. I did not.
The CHAIRMAN. Did you hear anything about members of that cabinet
going to the citizen's meeting and asking for protection or asking
advice as to what they should do?
Mr. SWINBURNE. Yes; I did hear that. I heard that two of them
went to Judge Hartwell. Judge Hartwell is known to be a very arden t
Annexationist.
Senator GRAY. Was he on the bench ?
Mr. SWINBURNE. Well, he had been.
Senator CRAY. He was called "judge?"
Mr. SWINBURNE. Called "judge."
The CHAIRMAN. In point of time, did you hear that when you got on
shore that day?
Mr. SWINBURNE. I heard that from the messenger who came off to
Capt. Wiltse about noon. My impression is that it was Mr. Cooper.
The CHAIRMAN. He brought that information to Capt. Wiltse?
Mr. SWINBURNE. Brought that to Capt. Wiltse.
The CHAIRMAN. That two members of the Queen's cabinet
Mr. SWINBURNE. Had come to Judge Hartwell's office and disclosed
to him the fact that the Queen had attempted to—they felt that the
Queen was prepared to use force—to force them to sign that new constitution.
Tlie CHAIRMAN. Did you stand from that statement that they had
asked any protection from the citizens, or had asked advice from the
citizens as to what they should do?
Mr. SWINBURNE. If you want my opinion, and not what I know?
The CHAIRMAN. NO. I want to know the shape in which that information
came aboard the ship that morning.
Mr. SWINBURNE. It came as a warning to Capt. Wiltse that the
Queen was prepared to overthrow the constitution. It was brought to
his attention there. His business was to watch over American interests
in the islands.
The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Cooper brought that information to Capt.
Wiltse?
Mr. SWINBURNE. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. Did it in any respect have reference to the Queen's
cabinet having sought advice from the citizens against any project of
hers to arrest them?
Mr. SWINBURNE. That is what I understood at the time. I know it
was talked of in the town; but whether I heard it at that time or not,
I do not know.
The CHAIRMAN. What I want is the information that was brought
aboard the ship.
Mr. SWINBURNE. It is very difficult to separate the time when I
heard these things. But I gathered the impression that day that thesp
HAWAIIAN ISLANDS. 845
men were actually afraid that they would be arrested by the Queen when
they went to Hartwell's office. That was my impression that day.
The CHAIRMAN. The object of their visit to Hartwell's office was either
to get advice or assistance against such expected or proposed movement
on the part of the Queen?
Mr. SWINBURNE. Yes.
Senator CRAY. Was there any request came off to the ship from any
other person to Mr. Stevens for the landing of the troops?
Mr. SWINBURNE. Not that I am aware of. I am certain there was a
message came off to the captain that led him to make his preparations.
Senator GRAY. DO you know from whom that message came?
Mr. SWINBURNE. I do not; I judge from the American minister.
Senator GRAY. Other than the American minister?
Mr. SWINBURNE. I do not know. I judge, of course, there could not
be any.
Senator GRAY. DO you recollect any note coming to Mr. Stevens on
the afternoon, and while he was on the ship?
Mr. SWINBURNE. That I do not know of my own knowledge, but I
heard that there was a note. I was extremely busy after I had asked
Capt. Wiltse to allow the captains of the companies to be present to
gather such information as they could. I left the cabin and was in and
out, and there was a good deal said between the captai 11 and the captains
of the companies that I did not hear. They asked questions as to their
duties under certain circumstances; I heard what they were afterward,
but I did not hear at the time. I had been there long enough to know
what we were to do if we landed, what my business was, and my orders
were not handed to me until .just before we shoved off from the ship.
But we were there for the purpose of protecting American property and
American interests; and my idea was to protect them against people,
who, I felt, might be guilty of incendiarism, plunder, or maltreatment
of unoffending American citizens. That is what I was thinking about.
Senator FRYE. Most of the buildings in Honolulu are constructed of
wood?
Mr. SWINBURNE. They are most all wooden buildings.
Senator PRYE. They would make serious fires ?
Mr. SWINBURNE. I know that is what the people were afraid of.
Senator PRYE. Is not that the resort of certain elements in revolutionary
states when a revolution is under way?
Mr. SWINBURNE. It is.
Senator PRYE. All through the South, down in Panama and everywhere
else?
Mr. SWINBURNE. I should think so.
Senator PRYE. I suppose the city of Honolulu is very much scattered?
Mr. SWINBURNE. Covers a good deal of ground.
Senator FRYE. And the Americans' houses are also scattered all
over the best part of the city ?
Mr. SWINBURNE. Yes; many of them up Nuuanu Valley and toward
the plains, and a good many toward Waikiki?
Senator FRYE. In case of mob violence in the city, that is the
property, I take it, that is pretty likely to be burned up?
Mr. SWINBURNE. Yes.
Senator FRYE. When you were about Arion Hall were you not situated
as well as you could be to hit that class of property?
Mr. SWINBURNE. SO far as American property was concerned I

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-HAWAIIAN ISLANDS.
+{{p|844}}
 understand that I was there simply to protect American property and
-life.
+understand that I was there simply to protect American property and life.
 The CHAIRMAN. Did you gather the impression or belief there that
-any members of the Queen's cabinet were in sympathy with this political
+The CHAIRMAN. Did you gather the impression or belief there that any members of the Queen's cabinet were in sympathy with this political outbreak?
 outbreak?
 Mr. SWINBURNE. In sympathy with the Provisional Government?
-Tlie CHAIRMAN. Yes.
-Mr. SWINBURNE. Of the Queen's cabinet at that time?
+The CHAIRMAN. Yes.
 The CHAIRMAN. For the purpose of overthrowing her, or for the purpose
-of establishing a provisional government?
+Mr. SWINBURNE. Of the Queen's cabinet at that time?
 Mr. SWINBURNE. I did not.
-The CHAIRMAN. Did you hear anything about members of that cabinet
+The CHAIRMAN. For the purpose of overthrowing her, or for the purpose of establishing a provisional government?
 going to the citizen's meeting and asking for protection or asking
-advice as to what they should do?
+Mr. SWINBURNE. I did not.
 Mr. SWINBURNE. Yes; I did hear that. I heard that two of them
-went to Judge Hartwell. Judge Hartwell is known to be a very arden t
+The CHAIRMAN. Did you hear anything about members of that cabinet going to the citizen's meeting and asking for protection or asking advice as to what they should do?
 Annexationist.
-Senator GRAY. Was he on the bench ?
+Mr. SWINBURNE. Yes; I did hear that. I heard that two of them went to Judge Hartwell. Judge Hartwell is known to be a very ardent Annexationist.
 Mr. SWINBURNE. Well, he had been.
-Senator CRAY. He was called "judge?"
+Senator GRAY. Was he on the bench?
 Mr. SWINBURNE. Called "judge."
-The CHAIRMAN. In point of time, did you hear that when you got on
+Mr. SWINBURNE. Well, he had been.
 shore that day?
-Mr. SWINBURNE. I heard that from the messenger who came off to
+Senator GRAY. He was called "judge?"
 Capt. Wiltse about noon. My impression is that it was Mr. Cooper.
-The CHAIRMAN. He brought that information to Capt. Wiltse?
+Mr. SWINBURNE. Called "judge."
 Mr. SWINBURNE. Brought that to Capt. Wiltse.
-The CHAIRMAN. That two members of the Queen's cabinet
+The CHAIRMAN. In point of time, did you hear that when you got on shore that day?
 Mr. SWINBURNE. Had come to Judge Hartwell's office and disclosed
-to him the fact that the Queen had attempted to—they felt that the
+Mr. SWINBURNE. I heard that from the messenger who came off to Capt. Wiltse about noon. My impression is that it was Mr. Cooper.
 Queen was prepared to use force—to force them to sign that new constitution.
-Tlie CHAIRMAN. Did you stand from that statement that they had
+The CHAIRMAN. He brought that information to Capt. Wiltse?
 asked any protection from the citizens, or had asked advice from the
-citizens as to what they should do?
+Mr. SWINBURNE. Brought that to Capt. Wiltse.
 Mr. SWINBURNE. If you want my opinion, and not what I know?
-The CHAIRMAN. NO. I want to know the shape in which that information
+The CHAIRMAN. That two members of the Queen's cabinet----
 came aboard the ship that morning.
-Mr. SWINBURNE. It came as a warning to Capt. Wiltse that the
+Mr. SWINBURNE. Had come to Judge Hartwell's office and disclosed to him the fact that the Queen had attempted to—they felt that the Queen was prepared to use force—to force them to sign that new constitution.
 Queen was prepared to overthrow the constitution. It was brought to
-his attention there. His business was to watch over American interests
+Tlie CHAIRMAN. Did you stand from that statement that they had asked any protection from the citizens, or had asked advice from the citizens as to what they should do?
 in the islands.
-The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Cooper brought that information to Capt.
+Mr. SWINBURNE. If you want my opinion, and not what I know?
 Wiltse?
-Mr. SWINBURNE. Yes.
+The CHAIRMAN. No. I want to know the shape in which that information came aboard the ship that morning.
 The CHAIRMAN. Did it in any respect have reference to the Queen's
-cabinet having sought advice from the citizens against any project of
+Mr. SWINBURNE. It came as a warning to Capt. Wiltse that the Queen was prepared to overthrow the constitution. It was brought to his attention there. His business was to watch over American interests in the islands.
 hers to arrest them?
-Mr. SWINBURNE. That is what I understood at the time. I know it
+The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Cooper brought that information to Capt. Wiltse?
 was talked of in the town; but whether I heard it at that time or not,
-I do not know.
+Mr. SWINBURNE. Yes.
 The CHAIRMAN. What I want is the information that was brought
-aboard the ship.
+The CHAIRMAN. Did it in any respect have reference to the Queen's cabinet having sought advice from the citizens against any project of hers to arrest them?
 Mr. SWINBURNE. It is very difficult to separate the time when I
-heard these things. But I gathered the impression that day that thesp
+Mr. SWINBURNE. That is what I understood at the time. I know it was talked of in the town; but whether I heard it at that time or not, I do not know.
-HAWAIIAN ISLANDS. 845
-men were actually afraid that they would be arrested by the Queen when
+The CHAIRMAN. What I want is the information that was brought aboard the ship.
 they went to Hartwell's office. That was my impression that day.
-The CHAIRMAN. The object of their visit to Hartwell's office was either
+Mr. SWINBURNE. It is very difficult to separate the time when I heard these things. But I gathered the impression that day that these
 to get advice or assistance against such expected or proposed movement
-on the part of the Queen?
+{{p|845}}
 Mr. SWINBURNE. Yes.
-Senator CRAY. Was there any request came off to the ship from any
+men were actually afraid that they would be arrested by the Queen when they went to Hartwell's office. That was my impression that day.
 other person to Mr. Stevens for the landing of the troops?
-Mr. SWINBURNE. Not that I am aware of. I am certain there was a
+The CHAIRMAN. The object of their visit to Hartwell's office was either to get advice or assistance against such expected or proposed movement on the part of the Queen?
 message came off to the captain that led him to make his preparations.
-Senator GRAY. DO you know from whom that message came?
+Mr. SWINBURNE. Yes.
 Mr. SWINBURNE. I do not; I judge from the American minister.
-Senator GRAY. Other than the American minister?
+Senator GRAY. Was there any request came off to the ship from any other person to Mr. Stevens for the landing of the troops?
 Mr. SWINBURNE. I do not know. I judge, of course, there could not
-be any.
+Mr. SWINBURNE. Not that I am aware of. I am certain there was a message came off to the captain that led him to make his preparations.
-Senator GRAY. DO you recollect any note coming to Mr. Stevens on
-the afternoon, and while he was on the ship?
+Senator GRAY. Do you know from whom that message came?
 Mr. SWINBURNE. That I do not know of my own knowledge, but I
-heard that there was a note. I was extremely busy after I had asked
+Mr. SWINBURNE. I do not; I judge from the American minister.
 Capt. Wiltse to allow the captains of the companies to be present to
-gather such information as they could. I left the cabin and was in and
+Senator GRAY. Other than the American minister?
-out, and there was a good deal said between the captai 11 and the captains
-of the companies that I did not hear. They asked questions as to their
+Mr. SWINBURNE. I do not know. I judge, of course, there could not be any.
 duties under certain circumstances; I heard what they were afterward,
-but I did not hear at the time. I had been there long enough to know
+Senator GRAY. Do you recollect any note coming to Mr. Stevens on the afternoon, and while he was on the ship?
 what we were to do if we landed, what my business was, and my orders
-were not handed to me until .just before we shoved off from the ship.
+Mr. SWINBURNE. That I do not know of my own knowledge, but I heard that there was a note. I was extremely busy after I had asked Capt. Wiltse to allow the captains of the companies to be present to gather such information as they could. I left the cabin and was in and out, and there was a good deal said between the captain and the captains of the companies that I did not hear. They asked questions as to their duties under certain circumstances; I heard what they were afterward, but I did not hear at the time. I had been there long enough to know what we were to do if we landed, what my business was, and my orders were not handed to me until just before we shoved off from the ship. But we were there for the purpose of protecting American property and American interests; and my idea was to protect them against people, who, I felt, might be guilty of incendiarism, plunder, or maltreatment of unoffending American citizens. That is what I was thinking about.
 But we were there for the purpose of protecting American property and
-American interests; and my idea was to protect them against people,
+Senator FRYE. Most of the buildings in Honolulu are constructed of wood?
 who, I felt, might be guilty of incendiarism, plunder, or maltreatment
-of unoffending American citizens. That is what I was thinking about.
+Mr. SWINBURNE. They are most all wooden buildings.
 Senator FRYE. Most of the buildings in Honolulu are constructed of
-wood?
+Senator FRYE. They would make serious fires?
 Mr. SWINBURNE. They are most all wooden buildings.
-Senator PRYE. They would make serious fires ?
+Mr. SWINBURNE. I know that is what the people were afraid of.
 Mr. SWINBURNE. I know that is what the people were afraid of.
-Senator PRYE. Is not that the resort of certain elements in revolutionary
+Senator FRYE. Is not that the resort of certain elements in revolutionary states when a revolution is under way?
 states when a revolution is under way?
 Mr. SWINBURNE. It is.
-Senator PRYE. All through the South, down in Panama and everywhere
-else?
+Senator FRYE. All through the South, down in Panama and everywhere else?
 Mr. SWINBURNE. I should think so.
-Senator PRYE. I suppose the city of Honolulu is very much scattered?
+Mr. SWINBURNE. I should think so.
 Mr. SWINBURNE. Covers a good deal of ground.
-Senator FRYE. And the Americans' houses are also scattered all
+Senator FRYE. I suppose the city of Honolulu is very much scattered?
 over the best part of the city ?
-Mr. SWINBURNE. Yes; many of them up Nuuanu Valley and toward
+Mr. SWINBURNE. Covers a good deal of ground.
 the plains, and a good many toward Waikiki?
-Senator FRYE. In case of mob violence in the city, that is the
+Senator FRYE. And the Americans' houses are also scattered all over the best part of the city?
 property, I take it, that is pretty likely to be burned up?
-Mr. SWINBURNE. Yes.
+Mr. SWINBURNE. Yes; many of them up Nuuanu Valley and toward the plains, and a good many toward Waikiki?
 Senator FRYE. When you were about Arion Hall were you not situated
-as well as you could be to hit that class of property?
+Senator FRYE. In case of mob violence in the city, that is the property, I take it, that is pretty likely to be burned up?
-Mr. SWINBURNE. SO far as American property was concerned I