Template:874-875 - Revision history

Jere Krischel at 21:49, 31 January 2006

2006-01-31T21:49:32Z

Jere Krischel at 09:48, 5 January 2006

2006-01-05T09:48:54Z

Jere Krischel at 04:52, 12 December 2005

2005-12-12T04:52:47Z

New page

8 7 4 HAWAIIAN ISLANDS
of the United States troops on shore had any effect in dethroning the
Queen or the establishment of the Provisional Government?
Mr. OLESON. I do not think it had the slightest.
Senator FEYE. And if the troops had remained on board ship the
same thing would have happenedI
Mr. OLESON. I thiuk the same thing might have happened. But I
think something else would have happened—there might have been
irresponsible parties turned upon the community, and incendiary fires
and bloodshed might have followed.
Senator FEYE. But as to the establishment of the Provisional Government?
Mr. OLESON. As to the establishment of the Government, I do not
think it made any material difference.
Senator FEYE. Mr. Chairman, I received by this morning's mail, from
Charles L. Carter, one of the commissioners, three or four statements
which were printed in the public papers of Honolulu, containing, over
the signatures of the men who are purported to have written them, contradictions
of the testimony of Dr. Trousseau, who appears several times
as a witness in Mr. Blount's report. I ask that they be incorporated in
this testimony. One is from Sanford B. Dole, one from Chief Justice
Judd, and one from Alfred S. Hartwell in answer to some statements made
by Dr. Trousseau that these gentlemen, together with others named,
had been for a long time in the habit of meeting at the office of the
minister of the United States and conspiring to produce the revolution
of 1893. They contradict Dr. Trousseau right straight through. They
are as follows:
Trousseau once more—He is again brought to a reckoning—This time
President Dole secures a retraction of some statements to Blount.
HONOLULU, December 27,1893.
GEORGE TEOUSSEAU, M. D.:
DEAE S I E : I notice in Mr. Blount's report, of which I have a copy
on page 284 of Part n, the following statement in your letter to Mr
Blount, dated May 16, 1893:
" Almost daily, to my personal knowledge, meetings were held at
Mr, Stevens's house in which the possibilities of a peaceful revolution
with the prospects of annexation were discussed. Prominent at these
meetings were the chief justice, Mr. Dole, Mr. Thurston, Mr. Hartwell,
Charles Carter, and others, also Capt. Wiltse."
This statement, which has been published in the Commercial
Advertiser at Honolulu, is incorrect as regards myself. I was never
present at any such meetings, nor was I aware that such meetings
were held until informed of it by the publication of your statement to
that effect.
1 desire that you will make due reparation in the matter with the
same publicity which the above statement has already received.
I am, very sincerely, yours,
SANFOED B. DOLE.
DECEMBEE 28, 1893.
Hon. S. B. DOLE,
President of the Provisional Government:
DEAE S I E : When I made to Mr. Blount the statements you refer
to in your letter of the 27th, I believed them to be correct, as my
information came from a source that I could not consider but reliable.
HAWAIIAN ISLANDS. 875
In spite of difference of opinion and bitterness of feeling on my part
engendered by the vile abuse I have been submitted to by your political
side, I have always considered you as a gentleman.
You say that you attended no meetings at Mr. Stevens's house; let it
be so; I accept your word for it.
Very respectfully yours,
G. TEOUSSEAU.
Trousseau and truth—Where they fail to agree in their evidence—Chief
Justice Judd and Judge A. 8. Hartwell deny statements of his to Blount.
EDITOR STAE:
Dr. Trousseau's statements to Mr. Blount, so far as they refer to me,
are totally untrue. I never met any of the gentlemen named by him
at Mr. Stevens's house. I never attended any meeting with the gentleman
named or with any others at Mr. Stevens's house, or at any other
place, where annexation was discussed.
I do not consider that I owe my "social and pecuniary position" to
the natives, although I believe I have their confidence and good will.
Before my appointment to the bench, now nearly twenty years ago, I
was receiving a handsome income from my practice at the bar; greater
than my salary as second associate justice, which was my first appointment.
I took no part whatever in the revolution of January, 1893, nor was
I informed of the plans of the movers in it. I had no more information
than any other " outsider."
A. F. JUDD.
HONOLULU, December 26,1893.
Gen. HartweWs denials.
Editor Star:
When Dr. Trousseau, in his statement to Blount and letter to Nordhoff,
says that " meetings were held at Mr. Stevens's house in which the
possibilities of a peaceful revolution were discussed," and that "prominent
at these meetings were the chief justice, Mr. Dole, Mr. Thurston,
Mr. Hartwell, Charles Carter, and others, also Capt. Wiltse," Dr. Trousseau
says, as far as I am concerned, that which is untrue. Mr. Charles
T. Gulick's statement to Blount contains similar language with that of
Dr. Trousseau, adding the expression that the persons named were so
managing as to " save their precious carcasses." Mr. Gulick will be
pleased to consider my denial of the truthfulness of both Nordhoffs
and Dr. Trousseau's statements of the meetings in question, as applying
also to his untruthful statement, iu so far as I am concerned.
But while it so happens that I never attended any such meetings as
Dr. Trousseau and Mr. Gulick have taken the grave responsibility of
asserting, it is true that talk of revolutions has been rife here for
years. The dread of it has been the main cause of many financial difficulties.
The viciousness of the above-mentioned statements of Messrs.
Trousseau and Gulick is in the impression which they were meant to
fix that we were plotting revolution, since otherwise such statements
"would be nothing but old women's gabble

@@ Line 56: / Line 56: @@
 :''President of the Provisional Government:''
-:{{sc|Dear Sir}}E : When I made to Mr. Blount the statements you refer to in your letter of the 27th, I believed them to be correct, as my information came from a source that I could not consider but reliable.
+:{{sc|Dear Sir}}: When I made to Mr. Blount the statements you refer to in your letter of the 27th, I believed them to be correct, as my information came from a source that I could not consider but reliable.
 {{p|875}}
 :In spite of difference of opinion and bitterness of feeling on my part engendered by the vile abuse I have been submitted to by your political side, I have always considered you as a gentleman.

@@ Line 1: / Line 1: @@
-7 4 HAWAIIAN ISLANDS
+{{p|874}}
 of the United States troops on shore had any effect in dethroning the
 Queen or the establishment of the Provisional Government?
-Mr. OLESON. I do not think it had the slightest.
-Senator FEYE. And if the troops had remained on board ship the
+Mr. {{sc|Oleson.}} I do not think it had the slightest.
-same thing would have happenedI
-Mr. OLESON. I thiuk the same thing might have happened. But I
+Senator {{sc|Frye.}} And if the troops had remained on board ship the
 think something else would have happened—there might have been
 irresponsible parties turned upon the community, and incendiary fires
 and bloodshed might have followed.
-Senator FEYE. But as to the establishment of the Provisional Government?
-Mr. OLESON. As to the establishment of the Government, I do not
+Senator {{sc|Frye.}} But as to the establishment of the Provisional Government?
 think it made any material difference.
-Senator FEYE. Mr. Chairman, I received by this morning's mail, from
 Charles L. Carter, one of the commissioners, three or four statements
 which were printed in the public papers of Honolulu, containing, over
@@ Line 25: / Line 31: @@
 of 1893. They contradict Dr. Trousseau right straight through. They
 are as follows:
 Trousseau once more—He is again brought to a reckoning—This time
-President Dole secures a retraction of some statements to Blount.
+''Trousseau once more—He is again brought to a reckoning—This time President Dole secures a retraction of some statements to Blount.''
-HONOLULU, December 27,1893.
-GEORGE TEOUSSEAU, M. D.:
+:{{sc|Honolulu}} ''December 27, 1893.''
-DEAE S I E : I notice in Mr. Blount's report, of which I have a copy
-on page 284 of Part n, the following statement in your letter to Mr
+:{{sc|George Trousseau}}, M. D.:
 Blount, dated May 16, 1893:
-" Almost daily, to my personal knowledge, meetings were held at
+:{{sc|Dear Sir}}:I notice in Mr. Blount's report, of which I have a copy on page 284 of Part II, the following statement in your letter to Mr Blount, dated May 16, 1893:
-Mr, Stevens's house in which the possibilities of a peaceful revolution
-with the prospects of annexation were discussed. Prominent at these
+::"Almost daily, to my personal knowledge, meetings were held at Mr. Stevens's house in which the possibilities of a peaceful revolution with the prospects of annexation were discussed. Prominent at these meetings were the chief justice, Mr. Dole, Mr. Thurston, Mr. Hartwell, Charles Carter, and others, also Capt. Wiltse."
 meetings were the chief justice, Mr. Dole, Mr. Thurston, Mr. Hartwell,
-Charles Carter, and others, also Capt. Wiltse."
+:This statement, which has been published in the Commercial Advertiser at Honolulu, is incorrect as regards myself. I was never present at any such meetings, nor was I aware that such meetings were held until informed of it by the publication of your statement to that effect.
 This statement, which has been published in the Commercial
-Advertiser at Honolulu, is incorrect as regards myself. I was never
+:I desire that you will make due reparation in the matter with the same publicity which the above statement has already received.
 present at any such meetings, nor was I aware that such meetings
-were held until informed of it by the publication of your statement to
+:I am, very sincerely, yours,
 that effect.
-desire that you will make due reparation in the matter with the
+:{{sc|Sanford B. Dole.}}
-same publicity which the above statement has already received.
+{{break}}
-I am, very sincerely, yours,
+:{{sc|December}} 28, 1893.
-SANFOED B. DOLE.
-DECEMBEE 28, 1893.
+:Hon. S.B. {{sc|Dole}},
-Hon. S. B. DOLE,
-President of the Provisional Government:
+:''President of the Provisional Government:''
-DEAE S I E : When I made to Mr. Blount the statements you refer
-to in your letter of the 27th, I believed them to be correct, as my
+:{{sc|Dear Sir}}E : When I made to Mr. Blount the statements you refer to in your letter of the 27th, I believed them to be correct, as my information came from a source that I could not consider but reliable.
-information came from a source that I could not consider but reliable.
+{{p|875}}
-HAWAIIAN ISLANDS. 875
+:In spite of difference of opinion and bitterness of feeling on my part engendered by the vile abuse I have been submitted to by your political side, I have always considered you as a gentleman.
 In spite of difference of opinion and bitterness of feeling on my part
-engendered by the vile abuse I have been submitted to by your political
+:You say that you attended no meetings at Mr. Stevens's house; let it be so; I accept your word for it.
 side, I have always considered you as a gentleman.
-You say that you attended no meetings at Mr. Stevens's house; let it
+:Very respectfully yours,
 be so; I accept your word for it.
-Very respectfully yours,
+:G. {{sc|Trousseau}}.
-G. TEOUSSEAU.
+{{break}}
-Trousseau and truth—Where they fail to agree in their evidence—Chief
+''Trousseau and truth—Where they fail to agree in their evidence—Chief Justice Judd and Judge A. S. Hartwell deny statements of his to Blount.''
-Justice Judd and Judge A. 8. Hartwell deny statements of his to Blount.
-EDITOR STAE:
+:{{sc|Editor Star}}:
 Dr. Trousseau's statements to Mr. Blount, so far as they refer to me,
-are totally untrue. I never met any of the gentlemen named by him
+:Dr. Trousseau's statements to Mr. Blount, so far as they refer to me, are totally untrue. I never met any of the gentlemen named by him at Mr. Stevens's house. I never attended any meeting with the gentleman named or with any others at Mr. Stevens's house, or at any other place, where annexation was discussed.
 at Mr. Stevens's house. I never attended any meeting with the gentleman
-named or with any others at Mr. Stevens's house, or at any other
+:I do not consider that I owe my "social and pecuniary position" to the natives, although I believe I have their confidence and good will. Before my appointment to the bench, now nearly twenty years ago, I was receiving a handsome income from my practice at the bar; greater than my salary as second associate justice, which was my first appointment.
 place, where annexation was discussed.
-I do not consider that I owe my "social and pecuniary position" to
+:I took no part whatever in the revolution of January, 1893, nor was I informed of the plans of the movers in it. I had no more information than any other "outsider."
 the natives, although I believe I have their confidence and good will.
-Before my appointment to the bench, now nearly twenty years ago, I
+:A. F. {{sc|Judd}}.
 was receiving a handsome income from my practice at the bar; greater
-than my salary as second associate justice, which was my first appointment.
+:{{sc|Honolulu}}, ''December 26, 1893.''
 I took no part whatever in the revolution of January, 1893, nor was
-I informed of the plans of the movers in it. I had no more information
+{{break}}
-than any other " outsider."
+''Gen. Hartwell's denials.''
-A. F. JUDD.
-HONOLULU, December 26,1893.
+:''Editor Star:''
-Gen. HartweWs denials.
-Editor Star:
+:When Dr. Trousseau, in his statement to Blount and letter to Nordhoff, says that "meetings were held at Mr. Stevens's house in which the possibilities of a peaceful revolution were discussed," and that "prominent at these meetings were the chief justice, Mr. Dole, Mr. Thurston, Mr. Hartwell, Charles Carter, and others, also Capt. Wiltse," Dr. Trousseau says, as far as I am concerned, that which is untrue. Mr. Charles T. Gulick's statement to Blount contains similar language with that of Dr. Trousseau, adding the expression that the persons named were so managing as to "save their precious carcasses." Mr. Gulick will be pleased to consider my denial of the truthfulness of both Nordhoff's and Dr. Trousseau's statements of the meetings in question, as applying also to his untruthful statement, in so far as I am concerned.
 When Dr. Trousseau, in his statement to Blount and letter to Nordhoff,
-says that " meetings were held at Mr. Stevens's house in which the
+:But while it so happens that I never attended any such meetings as Dr. Trousseau and Mr. Gulick have taken the grave responsibility of asserting, it is true that talk of revolutions has been rife here for years. The dread of it has been the main cause of many financial difficulties.
 possibilities of a peaceful revolution were discussed," and that "prominent
-at these meetings were the chief justice, Mr. Dole, Mr. Thurston,
+:The viciousness of the above-mentioned statements of Messrs. Trousseau and Gulick is in the impression which they were meant to fix that we were plotting revolution, since otherwise such statements would be nothing but old women's gabble