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1070 HAWAIIAN ISLANDS.
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CHAIRMAN. Anything else?
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MAOARTHUR. I have, by late steamer, reliable information that
+
The CHAIRMANAnything else?
there is danger that the reciprocity treaty with the United States
+
 
will be repealed unless the present tension is relieved. The imports
+
MACARTHUR. I have, by late steamer, reliable  
from the United States under that treaty in 1892 amounted to
+
information that there is
$3,838,359.91. Nearly all this was admitted to Hawaii free, whereas
+
danger that the reciprocity treaty with the United  
as to other competing countries the Hawaiian tariff ranges from 10 to
+
States will be repealed
25 per cent on such imports. With the abrogation of the reciprocity
+
unless the present tension is relieved. The imports  
treaty goes the privilege of our acquiring the Pearl Lochs for a naval
+
from the United States
station.
+
under that treaty in 1892 amounted to $3,838,359.91.  
There are 915,000 acres of crown lands. The rental from these is
+
Nearly all this was
stated at about $75,000 annually. The Provisional Government has
+
admitted to Hawaii free, whereas as to other competing  
them now. In addition the other Government lands are 851,071
+
countries the
acres, valued at $1,729,700, on which there is a yearly rental paid to
+
Hawaiian tariff ranges from 10 to 25 per cent on such  
the Provisional Government from portions leased of $58,863.
+
imports.   With the
 +
abrogation of the reciprocity treaty goes the  
 +
privilege of our acquiring the
 +
Pearl Lochs for a naval station.
 +
 
 +
There are 915,000 acres of crown lands. The  
 +
rental from these is stated
 +
at about $75,000 annually. The Provisional Government  
 +
has them now. In
 +
addition the other Government lands are 851,071 acres,  
 +
valued at $1,729,700,
 +
on which there is a yearly rental paid to the
 +
Provisional Government from
 +
portions leased of $58,863.
 +
 
 +
 
 
SWORN STATEMENT OF ADMIRAL GEORGE BELKNAP.
 
SWORN STATEMENT OF ADMIRAL GEORGE BELKNAP.
The CHAIRMAN. What is your profession ?
+
 
Mr. BELKNAP. I am a rear-admiral in the Navy, on the retired list.
+
The CHAIRMANWhat is your profession??
The CHAIRMAN. We are interested to know, and I think the people
+
 
of the United States are very much interested in knowing, whether the
+
Mr. BELKNAPI am a rear-admiral in the Navy, on the  
Hawaiian group of islands, with its base, and particularly Pearl Harbor,
+
retired list.
is of real importance to this country and its defense in a military and a
+
 
naval sense; and, if you think it is, or if it is not, what are the general
+
The CHAIRMANWe are interested to know, and I think  
reasons on which you predict that opinion ?
+
the people of the
Mr. BELKNAP. I think it is a matter of prime importance to the people
+
United States are very much interested in knowing,  
of the United States to acquire those islands. I think, in view of
+
whether the Hawaiian
the present state of affairs, the coming growth of the population of
+
group of islands, with its base, and particularly  
the Pacific coast, and especially when the Nicaraguan Canal shall have
+
Pearl Harbor, is of real
been completed, that those islands will form the most important commercial
+
importance to this country and its defense in a  
and strategic point in the Pacific Ocean. I think it would be a
+
military and a naval sense;
suicidal policy on the part of the United States to allow Great Britain
+
and, if you think it is, or if it is not, what are the  
or any other European power to get any foothold on those islands.
+
general reasons on
The CHAIRMAN. That policy seems to have been anticipated on the
+
which you predict that opinion??
part of the United States for perhaps forty or fifty years, so that the
+
 
question would then arise, of course, whether it would be better for us
+
Mr. BELKNAPI think it is a matter of prime  
in the sense of protecting our commerce and our coast to assume the
+
importance to the people of
control of the Hawaiian group of islands, in order that we might there
+
the United States to acquire those islands.   I think,  
establish our naval station and have in the middle of the Pacific Ocean
+
in view of the
a means of offense and defense against the fleets of Europe and Asia?
+
present state of affairs, the   coming growth of the  
Mr. BELKNAP. I think we ought to assume control right away. And
+
population of the
as to the fleets of Europe attacking those islands, I think they have
+
Pacific coast, and especially when the Nicaraguan  
their hands full in looking out for their own interests in other parts of
+
Canal shall have been
the world.
+
completed, that those islands will form the most  
The CHAIRMAN. You have been on the islands ?
+
important commercial and
Mr. BELKNAP. Yes; I have been there twice.
+
strategic point in the Pacific Ocean.   I think it  
The CHAIRMAN. And I suppose you have some acquaintance with
+
would be a suicidal
Pearl Harbor?
+
policy on the part of the United States to allow Great  
Mr. BELKNAP. I never went to Pearl Harbor.
+
Britain or any other
The CHAIRMAN. DO you know where it is located?
+
European power to get any foothold on those islands.
Mr. BELKNAP. I know where it is located.
+
 
The CHAIRMAN. And its general character!
+
The CHAIRMANThat policy seems to have been  
 +
anticipated on the part of
 +
the United States for perhaps forty or fifty years, so  
 +
that the question
 +
would then arise, of course, whether it would be  
 +
better for us in the sense
 +
of protecting our commerce and our coast to assume the  
 +
control of the
 +
Hawaiian group of islands, in order that we might  
 +
there establish our naval
 +
station and have in the middle of the Pacific Ocean a
 +
means of offense and
 +
defense against the fleets of Europe and Asia?
 +
 
 +
Mr. BELKNAPI think we ought to assume control  
 +
right away. And as to the
 +
fleets of Europe attacking those islands, I think they  
 +
have their hands full
 +
in looking out for their own interests in other parts  
 +
of the world.
 +
 
 +
The CHAIRMANYou have been on the islands??
 +
 
 +
Mr. BELKNAPYesI have been there twice.
 +
 
 +
The CHAIRMANAnd I suppose you have some  
 +
acquaintance with Pearl Harbor?
 +
 
 +
Mr. BELKNAPI never went to Pearl Harbor.
 +
 
 +
The CHAIRMAN:  Do you know where it is located?
 +
 
 +
Mr. BELKNAPI know where it is located.
 +
 
 +
The CHAIRMANAnd its general character!
 +
 
 
Mr. BELKNAP. Yes, sir.
 
Mr. BELKNAP. Yes, sir.
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The CHAIRMAN. And you also have a general acquaintance with the
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Bay of Honolulu?
+
 
Mr. BELKNAP. Yes; in my judgment Honolulu is one of the easiest
+
The CHAIRMANAnd you also have a general  
defended ports in the world. They talk about ships attacking that
+
acquaintance with the Bay of
harbor, the fact is they can not do it successfully. A few heavy guns
+
Honolulu?  
properly located would keep them away.
+
 
The CHAIRMAN. YOU speak of the rim of mountains back of Honolulu?
+
Mr. BELKNAPYes; in my judgment Honolulu is one of  
Mr. BELKNAP. Yes; Punch Bowl and other mountains back of Honolulu.
+
the easiest defended
It is constantly rising ground back of the-city.
+
ports in the world. They talk about ships attacking  
The CHAIRMAN. DO you think it would be ieasible to establish batteries
+
that harbor, the fact is
 +
they can not do it successfully.   A few heavy guns  
 +
properly located would
 +
keep them away.  
 +
 
 +
The CHAIRMAN:  You speak of the rim of mountains back  
 +
of Honolulu?
 +
 
 +
Mr. BELKNAPYes, Punch Bowl and other mountains  
 +
back of Honolulu. It is
 +
constantly rising ground back of the-city.
 +
 
 +
The CHAIRMAN:  Do you think it would be feasible to  
 +
establish batteries
 
around on the reef in Honolulu Bay?
 
around on the reef in Honolulu Bay?
Mr. BELKNAP. NO ; it is not feasible. It is only a half mile from
+
 
shore, and that would not be necessary.
+
Mr. BELKNAP:  No, it is not feasible. It is only a  
The CHAIRMAN. With long-range artillery would we be able to give
+
half mile from shore,
the harbor any perfect protection?
+
and that would not be necessary.
Mr. BELKNAP. Yes. They talk about long-range guns. It is all
+
 
nonsense. They can not get the range on ship that they can on shore.
+
The CHAIRMANWith long-range artillery would we be  
I landed a force in Honolulu in 1874 and kept it there a week. That
+
able to give the
was when Kalakaua was elected King. If you will allow me I will tell
+
harbor any perfect protection?
you the circumstances.
+
 
The CHAIRMAN. I think that is what Senator Frye desires to examine
+
Mr. BELKNAPYes. They talk about long-range guns.  
you about. Proceed with your statement.
+
It is all nonsense.
Mr. BELKNAP. I arrived there on the Tuscarora from San Diego.
+
They can not get the range on ship that they can on  
We had been engaged in making deep-sea soundings. We arrived at
+
shore. I landed a force
Honolulu on the 3d of February, 1874. As we went into the harbor
+
in Honolulu in 1874 and kept it there a week. That was
we noticed a throng of people on the wharf and streets. As soon as
+
when Kalakaua was
the pilot came on board we learned that King Lunalilo had just died.
+
elected King. If you will allow me I will tell you the  
It was too late to call on the minister that day, but at 10 o'clock the
+
circumstances.
next morning I went on shore. The minister was then Mr. Henry A.
+
 
Pierce.
+
The CHAIRMANI think that is what Senator Frye  
The CHAIRMAN. From what State was he?
+
desires to examine you
Mr. BELKNAP. Massachusetts. He had been in Honolulu for many
+
about. Proceed with your statement.
years, and he made a fortune. He came back to the United States and
+
 
lost it. Then Gen. Grant made him minister. Mr. Pierce told me that
+
Mr. BELKNAPI arrived there on the ''Tuscarora'' from  
the Legislative Assembly would meet on the 12th of that month, and
+
San Diego. We had been
would elect a successor to King Lunalilo, he having died without
+
engaged in making deep-sea soundings.   We arrived at  
designating his successor. It became necessary therefore under the
+
Honolulu on the 3d of
constitution that the Legislature should elect the King. Mr. Pierce
+
February, 1874.   As we went into the harbor we
said there were two candidates in the field; one was David Kalakaua,
+
noticed a throng of people
the son of a high chief; the other a widow of Kamehameha IV—Queen
+
on the wharf and streets. As soon as the pilot came on  
Emma. There were large numbers of natives and a great body of
+
board we learned that
Americans who favored Kalakaua as being the better person for
+
King Lunalilo had just died. It was too late to call  
American interests, while some of the natives, and particularly those
+
on the minister that
belonging to the English church, and the greater part of the English
+
day, but at 10 o'clock the next morning I went on  
people, headed by the British minister, wanted Queen Emma. Mr. Pierce
+
shore. The minister was
said he thought there would be trouble, and wanted to know if I would
+
then Mr. Henry A. Pierce.
land a force in case it were necessary to do so.
+
 
The CHAIRMAN. I want to ask right there whether or not there was
+
The CHAIRMANFrom what State was he?
a distinctive British influence in Hawaii, as there was an American
+
 
interest, and were they controverting with each other for the real control
+
Mr. BELKNAPMassachusetts. He had been in Honolulu  
of the politics of the islands?
+
for many years, and he
Mr. BELKNAP. I think that was undoubtedly the case. Mr. Wodehouse,
+
made a fortune. He came back to the United States and  
the British commissioner, was there. He is now the minister.
+
lost it. Then Gen.
He has been there over thirty years. for a number of years; I think he has been there
+
Grant made him minister. Mr. Pierce told me that the
 +
Legislative Assembly
 +
would meet on the 12th of that month, and would elect  
 +
a successor to King
 +
Lunalilo, he having died without designating his  
 +
successor. It became
 +
necessary therefore under the constitution that the  
 +
Legislature should elect
 +
the King. Mr. Pierce said there were two candidates in  
 +
the field; one was
 +
David Kalakaua, the son of a high chief; the other a  
 +
widow of Kamehameha
 +
IV?Queen Emma. There were large numbers of natives and  
 +
agreat body of
 +
Americans who favored Kalakaua as being the better  
 +
person for American
 +
interests, while some of the natives, and particularly  
 +
those belonging to
 +
the English church, and the greater part of the  
 +
English people, headed by
 +
the British minister, wanted Queen Emma. Mr. Pierce  
 +
said he thought there
 +
would be trouble, and wanted to know if I would land a  
 +
force in case it were
 +
necessary to do so.
 +
 
 +
The CHAIRMANI want to ask right there whether or  
 +
not there was a
 +
distinctive British influence in Hawaii, as there was  
 +
an American interest,
 +
and were they controverting with each other for the  
 +
real control of the
 +
politics of the islands?
 +
 
 +
Mr. BELKNAPI think that was undoubtedly the case.  
 +
Mr. Wodehouse, the
 +
British commissioner, was there. He is now the  
 +
minister. He has been there
 +
for a number of years; I think he has been there over
 +
thirty years.

Revision as of 13:13, 31 January 2006

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The CHAIRMAN: Anything else?

MACARTHUR. I have, by late steamer, reliable information that there is danger that the reciprocity treaty with the United States will be repealed unless the present tension is relieved. The imports from the United States under that treaty in 1892 amounted to $3,838,359.91. Nearly all this was admitted to Hawaii free, whereas as to other competing countries the Hawaiian tariff ranges from 10 to 25 per cent on such imports. With the abrogation of the reciprocity treaty goes the privilege of our acquiring the Pearl Lochs for a naval station.

There are 915,000 acres of crown lands. The rental from these is stated at about $75,000 annually. The Provisional Government has them now. In addition the other Government lands are 851,071 acres, valued at $1,729,700, on which there is a yearly rental paid to the Provisional Government from portions leased of $58,863.


SWORN STATEMENT OF ADMIRAL GEORGE BELKNAP.

The CHAIRMAN: What is your profession??

Mr. BELKNAP: I am a rear-admiral in the Navy, on the retired list.

The CHAIRMAN: We are interested to know, and I think the people of the United States are very much interested in knowing, whether the Hawaiian group of islands, with its base, and particularly Pearl Harbor, is of real importance to this country and its defense in a military and a naval sense; and, if you think it is, or if it is not, what are the general reasons on which you predict that opinion??

Mr. BELKNAP: I think it is a matter of prime importance to the people of the United States to acquire those islands. I think, in view of the present state of affairs, the coming growth of the population of the Pacific coast, and especially when the Nicaraguan Canal shall have been completed, that those islands will form the most important commercial and strategic point in the Pacific Ocean. I think it would be a suicidal policy on the part of the United States to allow Great Britain or any other European power to get any foothold on those islands.

The CHAIRMAN: That policy seems to have been anticipated on the part of the United States for perhaps forty or fifty years, so that the question would then arise, of course, whether it would be better for us in the sense of protecting our commerce and our coast to assume the control of the Hawaiian group of islands, in order that we might there establish our naval station and have in the middle of the Pacific Ocean a means of offense and defense against the fleets of Europe and Asia?

Mr. BELKNAP: I think we ought to assume control right away. And as to the fleets of Europe attacking those islands, I think they have their hands full in looking out for their own interests in other parts of the world.

The CHAIRMAN: You have been on the islands??

Mr. BELKNAP: Yes, I have been there twice.

The CHAIRMAN: And I suppose you have some acquaintance with Pearl Harbor?

Mr. BELKNAP: I never went to Pearl Harbor.

The CHAIRMAN: Do you know where it is located?

Mr. BELKNAP: I know where it is located.

The CHAIRMAN: And its general character!

Mr. BELKNAP. Yes, sir.

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The CHAIRMAN: And you also have a general acquaintance with the Bay of Honolulu?

Mr. BELKNAP: Yes; in my judgment Honolulu is one of the easiest defended ports in the world. They talk about ships attacking that harbor, the fact is they can not do it successfully. A few heavy guns properly located would keep them away.

The CHAIRMAN: You speak of the rim of mountains back of Honolulu?

Mr. BELKNAP: Yes, Punch Bowl and other mountains back of Honolulu. It is constantly rising ground back of the-city.

The CHAIRMAN: Do you think it would be feasible to establish batteries around on the reef in Honolulu Bay?

Mr. BELKNAP: No, it is not feasible. It is only a half mile from shore, and that would not be necessary.

The CHAIRMAN: With long-range artillery would we be able to give the harbor any perfect protection?

Mr. BELKNAP: Yes. They talk about long-range guns. It is all nonsense. They can not get the range on ship that they can on shore. I landed a force in Honolulu in 1874 and kept it there a week. That was when Kalakaua was elected King. If you will allow me I will tell you the circumstances.

The CHAIRMAN: I think that is what Senator Frye desires to examine you about. Proceed with your statement.

Mr. BELKNAP: I arrived there on the Tuscarora from San Diego. We had been engaged in making deep-sea soundings. We arrived at Honolulu on the 3d of February, 1874. As we went into the harbor we noticed a throng of people on the wharf and streets. As soon as the pilot came on board we learned that King Lunalilo had just died. It was too late to call on the minister that day, but at 10 o'clock the next morning I went on shore. The minister was then Mr. Henry A. Pierce.

The CHAIRMAN: From what State was he?

Mr. BELKNAP: Massachusetts. He had been in Honolulu for many years, and he made a fortune. He came back to the United States and lost it. Then Gen. Grant made him minister. Mr. Pierce told me that the Legislative Assembly would meet on the 12th of that month, and would elect a successor to King Lunalilo, he having died without designating his successor. It became necessary therefore under the constitution that the Legislature should elect the King. Mr. Pierce said there were two candidates in the field; one was David Kalakaua, the son of a high chief; the other a widow of Kamehameha IV?Queen Emma. There were large numbers of natives and agreat body of Americans who favored Kalakaua as being the better person for American interests, while some of the natives, and particularly those belonging to the English church, and the greater part of the English people, headed by the British minister, wanted Queen Emma. Mr. Pierce said he thought there would be trouble, and wanted to know if I would land a force in case it were necessary to do so.

The CHAIRMAN: I want to ask right there whether or not there was a distinctive British influence in Hawaii, as there was an American interest, and were they controverting with each other for the real control of the politics of the islands?

Mr. BELKNAP: I think that was undoubtedly the case. Mr. Wodehouse, the British commissioner, was there. He is now the minister. He has been there for a number of years; I think he has been there over thirty years.