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Mr. STEVENS. Yes; we were there probably two hours.
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Yes; we were there probably two hours.
The CHAIRMAN. Was any representative of a foreign government
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Was any representative of a foreign government
 
missing on that occasion ?
 
missing on that occasion ?
Mr. STEVENS. I do not remember any.
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The CHAIRMAN. YOU can state that it was a general conference.
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} I do not remember any.
Mr. STEVENS. Oh, they invited the whole of them.
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The CHAIRMAN. Who invited them?
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} You can state that it was a general conference.
Mr. STEVENS. The invitation to come came from the clerk of the
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Oh, they invited the whole of them.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Who invited them?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} The invitation to come came from the clerk of the
 
new minister of the interior, who got alarmed.
 
new minister of the interior, who got alarmed.
The CHAIRMAN. Who was the minister of the interior?
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Mr. STEVENS. I do not positively remember, but I think Colburn.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Who was the minister of the interior?
The CHAIRMAN. And the invitation came from Liliuokalani's minister
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} I do not positively remember, but I think Colburn.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} And the invitation came from Liliuokalani's minister
 
of the interior to you?
 
of the interior to you?
Mr. STEVENS. Yes; the chief clerk, Mr. Hassinger, who had been
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Yes; the chief clerk, Mr. Hassinger, who had been
 
there for years, brought it to me at the legation.
 
there for years, brought it to me at the legation.
The CHAIRMAN. Did he ask you to come to the Government building?
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Mr. STEVENS. Yes.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Did he ask you to come to the Government building?
The CHAIRMAN. Did he tell you that there was an assemblage of
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Yes.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Did he tell you that there was an assemblage of
 
the foreign ministers at the Government building?
 
the foreign ministers at the Government building?
Mr. STEVENS. I am not sure; but T think he did.
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The CHAIRMAN. Well, when you got there
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} I am not sure; but I think he did.
Mr. STEVENS. One or two came in after I arrived; but we all left
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Well, when you got there---
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} One or two came in after I arrived; but we all left
 
about the same time. We waited for the denouement at the palace,
 
about the same time. We waited for the denouement at the palace,
 
but two of the new ministers were afraid to go back to the palace.
 
but two of the new ministers were afraid to go back to the palace.
The CHAIRMAN. What two ministers were afraid?
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Mr. STEVENS. Colburn and Cornwall seemed to be alarmed.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} What two ministers were afraid?
The CHAIRMAN. What made you think they were alarmed?
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Mr. STEVENS. Their appearance, and in sending for us. Then it
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Colburn and Cornwall seemed to be alarmed.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} What made you think they were alarmed?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Their appearance, and in sending for us. Then it
 
came out that they were afraid to go to the palace. Their manner
 
came out that they were afraid to go to the palace. Their manner
 
showed it.
 
showed it.
The CHAIRMAN. Was there anything that indicated it?
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Mr. STEVENS. Only their sending for us and their general appearance—
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Was there anything that indicated it?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Only their sending for us and their general appearance—
 
their going backwards and forwards from and to the palace.
 
their going backwards and forwards from and to the palace.
The CHAIRMAN. Were they passing backwards and forwards between
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Were they passing backwards and forwards between
 
your meeting and the palace?
 
your meeting and the palace?
Mr. STEVENS. Not between us. Finally, when Cornwall and Colburn
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Not between us. Finally, when Cornwall and Colburn
 
left us, the message came from Mr. Parker, the minister of foreign
 
left us, the message came from Mr. Parker, the minister of foreign
 
affairs, and they left us and went to the palace, and I waited perhaps
 
affairs, and they left us and went to the palace, and I waited perhaps
 
an hour or more and I went back to the legation and remained.
 
an hour or more and I went back to the legation and remained.
The CHAIRMAN. On those occasions when Liliuokalani's ministers
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} On those occasions when Liliuokalani's ministers
 
were present, was any intimation given or proposition submitted to
 
were present, was any intimation given or proposition submitted to
 
the foreign representatives in respect of the protection that should be
 
the foreign representatives in respect of the protection that should be
 
extended to American citizens or anyone else?
 
extended to American citizens or anyone else?
Mr. STEVENS. They made no intimation to us. They asked us at
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} They made no intimation to us. They asked us at
 
first to come there. We went there and waited, and did not confer with
 
first to come there. We went there and waited, and did not confer with
 
each other what to do.
 
each other what to do.
Senator BUTLER. What day was that ?
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Mr. STEVENS. That was on Saturday afternoon, January 14, the same
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Senator {{sc|Butler.}} What day was that?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} That was on Saturday afternoon, January 14, the same
 
Saturday afternoon when the Queen was present at the palace with the
 
Saturday afternoon when the Queen was present at the palace with the
 
mob and the Queen's guard around it, and the chief justice was with
 
mob and the Queen's guard around it, and the chief justice was with
 
her.
 
her.
Senator BUTLER. That was the day the Boston returned?
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Mr. STEVENS. Yes.
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Senator {{sc|Butler.}} That was the day the Boston returned?
Senator BUTLER. That was the day before this public meeting of
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Yes.
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Senator {{sc|Butler.}} That was the day before this public meeting of
 
which you spoke?
 
which you spoke?
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Mr. STEVENS. TWO days before.
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Two days before.
The CHAIRMAN. YOU spoke of a mob about the palace. Do you
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} You spoke of a mob about the palace. Do you
 
mean a disorganized body of men?
 
mean a disorganized body of men?
Mr. STEVENS. Disorganized body of natives; retainers who had been
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Disorganized body of natives; retainers who had been
 
dressed up respectably, and their leader had a constitution on a velvet
 
dressed up respectably, and their leader had a constitution on a velvet
 
cushion.
 
cushion.
The CHAIRMAN. I am going into the inquiry whether, in the American
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} I am going into the inquiry whether, in the American
 
acceptation of the word, that was a mob or an assemblage of the
 
acceptation of the word, that was a mob or an assemblage of the
 
Queen's supporters.
 
Queen's supporters.
Mr. STEVENS. That was, in the general acceptation of the word, a
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} That was, in the general acceptation of the word, a
 
mob; you may call it an assemblage.
 
mob; you may call it an assemblage.
The CHAIRMAN. Was there any mob violence?
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Mr. STEVENS. The information came to me direct that when the
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Was there any mob violence?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} The information came to me direct that when the
 
Queen was baffled, when they learned that the Queen would not proclaim
 
Queen was baffled, when they learned that the Queen would not proclaim
 
that constitution at that time, they swore they would kill her. I
 
that constitution at that time, they swore they would kill her. I
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positive that I received these words from the chief justice. It came
 
positive that I received these words from the chief justice. It came
 
to me in such a form that I took it as correct.
 
to me in such a form that I took it as correct.
The CHAIRMAN. Who was it informed you!
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Mr. STEVENS. Several parties.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Who was it informed you?
The CHAIRMAN. Can you name them?
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Mr. STEVENS. The strongest testimony came from the chief justice.
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Several parties.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Can you name them?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} The strongest testimony came from the chief justice.
 
Whether he used that specific language or not, or I received that specific
 
Whether he used that specific language or not, or I received that specific
 
language from the chief justice, I could not say, because there
 
language from the chief justice, I could not say, because there
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scenes in the palace and the revolutionary state of things came from
 
scenes in the palace and the revolutionary state of things came from
 
the chief justice, who was there four hours.
 
the chief justice, who was there four hours.
The CHAIRMAN. All of which transpired before you went to tho
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} All of which transpired before you went to the
 
palace?
 
palace?
Mr. STEVENS. NO; all that transpired while we were over at the
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} No; all that transpired while we were over at the
 
Government building and after we had left.
 
Government building and after we had left.
The CHAIRMAN. Before you went to the palace?.
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Mr. STEVENS. I did not go to the palace that day. The officals were
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Before you went to the palace?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} I did not go to the palace that day. The officals were
 
at the palace at 12 o'clock.
 
at the palace at 12 o'clock.
The CHAIRMAN. At the palace?
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Mr. STEVENS. Where the scenes took place.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} At the palace?
The CHAIRMAN. I was going to ask the question, where the mob was
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Where the scenes took place.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} I was going to ask the question, where the mob was
 
assembled?
 
assembled?
Mr. STEVENS. Yes. It was at the palace that this constitution wan
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Yes. It was at the palace that this constitution was
 
expected to be proclaimed.
 
expected to be proclaimed.
The CHAIRMAN. You did not enter into that crowd?
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Mr. STEVENS. Not at all. I went home to dinner, and this invitation
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} You did not enter into that crowd?
of the minister of the interior was for us to come at half-past our.
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Not at all. I went home to dinner, and this invitation
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of the minister of the interior was for us to come at half-past one.
 
We went over to the Government building, and were there from one to
 
We went over to the Government building, and were there from one to
 
two hours.
 
two hours.
The CHAIRMAN. My point is that you did not go to the palace that
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} My point is that you did not go to the palace that
 
afternoon.
 
afternoon.
Mr. STEVENS. No; I attempted to go, but failed, as I have before
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} No; I attempted to go, but failed, as I have before
 
testified, owing to it being too late.
 
testified, owing to it being too late.
The CHAIRMAN. Are you able to state from information that came
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Are you able to state from information that came
 
to you, beside that from the committee of safety, that you would be
 
to you, beside that from the committee of safety, that you would be

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Mr. Stevens. Yes; we were there probably two hours.

The Chairman. Was any representative of a foreign government missing on that occasion ?

Mr. Stevens. I do not remember any.

The Chairman. You can state that it was a general conference.

Mr. Stevens. Oh, they invited the whole of them.

The Chairman. Who invited them?

Mr. Stevens. The invitation to come came from the clerk of the new minister of the interior, who got alarmed.

The Chairman. Who was the minister of the interior?

Mr. Stevens. I do not positively remember, but I think Colburn.

The Chairman. And the invitation came from Liliuokalani's minister of the interior to you?

Mr. Stevens. Yes; the chief clerk, Mr. Hassinger, who had been there for years, brought it to me at the legation.

The Chairman. Did he ask you to come to the Government building?

Mr. Stevens. Yes.

The Chairman. Did he tell you that there was an assemblage of the foreign ministers at the Government building?

Mr. Stevens. I am not sure; but I think he did.

The Chairman. Well, when you got there---

Mr. Stevens. One or two came in after I arrived; but we all left about the same time. We waited for the denouement at the palace, but two of the new ministers were afraid to go back to the palace.

The Chairman. What two ministers were afraid?

Mr. Stevens. Colburn and Cornwall seemed to be alarmed.

The Chairman. What made you think they were alarmed?

Mr. Stevens. Their appearance, and in sending for us. Then it came out that they were afraid to go to the palace. Their manner showed it.

The Chairman. Was there anything that indicated it?

Mr. Stevens. Only their sending for us and their general appearance— their going backwards and forwards from and to the palace.

The Chairman. Were they passing backwards and forwards between your meeting and the palace?

Mr. Stevens. Not between us. Finally, when Cornwall and Colburn left us, the message came from Mr. Parker, the minister of foreign affairs, and they left us and went to the palace, and I waited perhaps an hour or more and I went back to the legation and remained.

The Chairman. On those occasions when Liliuokalani's ministers were present, was any intimation given or proposition submitted to the foreign representatives in respect of the protection that should be extended to American citizens or anyone else?

Mr. Stevens. They made no intimation to us. They asked us at first to come there. We went there and waited, and did not confer with each other what to do.

Senator Butler. What day was that?

Mr. Stevens. That was on Saturday afternoon, January 14, the same Saturday afternoon when the Queen was present at the palace with the mob and the Queen's guard around it, and the chief justice was with her.

Senator Butler. That was the day the Boston returned?

Mr. Stevens. Yes.

Senator Butler. That was the day before this public meeting of which you spoke?

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Mr. Stevens. Two days before.

The Chairman. You spoke of a mob about the palace. Do you mean a disorganized body of men?

Mr. Stevens. Disorganized body of natives; retainers who had been dressed up respectably, and their leader had a constitution on a velvet cushion.

The Chairman. I am going into the inquiry whether, in the American acceptation of the word, that was a mob or an assemblage of the Queen's supporters.

Mr. Stevens. That was, in the general acceptation of the word, a mob; you may call it an assemblage.

The Chairman. Was there any mob violence?

Mr. Stevens. The information came to me direct that when the Queen was baffled, when they learned that the Queen would not proclaim that constitution at that time, they swore they would kill her. I suppose that was a temporary outbreak. While I was not in that crowd, I received more reliable information from the chief justice of what took place, and of the wrangle between the Queen and Peterson about the constitution—of the Queen turning upon him and stating, "You have had that in your pocket for two or three weeks." I am not positive that I received these words from the chief justice. It came to me in such a form that I took it as correct.

The Chairman. Who was it informed you?

Mr. Stevens. Several parties.

The Chairman. Can you name them?

Mr. Stevens. The strongest testimony came from the chief justice. Whether he used that specific language or not, or I received that specific language from the chief justice, I could not say, because there were so many talked to me on the subject. But information as to the scenes in the palace and the revolutionary state of things came from the chief justice, who was there four hours.

The Chairman. All of which transpired before you went to the palace?

Mr. Stevens. No; all that transpired while we were over at the Government building and after we had left.

The Chairman. Before you went to the palace?

Mr. Stevens. I did not go to the palace that day. The officals were at the palace at 12 o'clock.

The Chairman. At the palace?

Mr. Stevens. Where the scenes took place.

The Chairman. I was going to ask the question, where the mob was assembled?

Mr. Stevens. Yes. It was at the palace that this constitution was expected to be proclaimed.

The Chairman. You did not enter into that crowd?

Mr. Stevens. Not at all. I went home to dinner, and this invitation of the minister of the interior was for us to come at half-past one. We went over to the Government building, and were there from one to two hours.

The Chairman. My point is that you did not go to the palace that afternoon.

Mr. Stevens. No; I attempted to go, but failed, as I have before testified, owing to it being too late.

The Chairman. Are you able to state from information that came to you, beside that from the committee of safety, that you would be