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Senator GRAY. When was that?
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Senator {{sc|Gray.}} When was that?
Mr. MCCANDLESS. That was probably the middle of February. I
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Mr. {{sc|McCandless.}} That was probably the middle of February. I
 
can not say the date.
 
can not say the date.
The CHAIRMAN. Who was the marshal?
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Mr. MCCANDLESS. George Ashley. He was appointed and removed
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Who was the marshal?
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Mr. {{sc|McCandless.}} George Ashley. He was appointed and removed
 
afterwards.
 
afterwards.
The CHAIRMAN. Was any force used to put down that riot?
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Mr. MCCANDLESS. Oh, no; that was allowed just to quietly subside.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Was any force used to put down that riot?
The CHAIRMAN. Was there any occasion since the establishment of
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Mr. {{sc|McCandless.}} Oh, no; that was allowed just to quietly subside.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Was there any occasion since the establishment of
 
the Provisional Government when there were any riots which rendered
 
the Provisional Government when there were any riots which rendered
 
it necessary, or it appeared to be necessary, to put them down?
 
it necessary, or it appeared to be necessary, to put them down?
Mr. MCCANDLESS. No.
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The CHAIRMAN. The country has been in a peaceful state under the
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Mr. {{sc|McCandless.}} No.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} The country has been in a peaceful state under the
 
Provisional Government?
 
Provisional Government?
Mr. MCCANDLESS. Yes; there was only one thing they were afraid of,
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Mr. {{sc|McCandless.}} Yes; there was only one thing they were afraid of,
 
and that was incendiarism. Of course, we heard of that constantly—
 
and that was incendiarism. Of course, we heard of that constantly—
 
heard of it from the men it came from.
 
heard of it from the men it came from.
The CHAIRMAN. Threats of burnings?
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Mr. MCCANDLESS. Threats of burnings.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Threats of burnings?
The CHAIRMAN. After you had organized your force under Col. Soper
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Mr. {{sc|McCandless.}} Threats of burnings.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} After you had organized your force under Col. Soper
 
on Tuesday the 17th, did you have any apprehension that Queen Liliuokalani
 
on Tuesday the 17th, did you have any apprehension that Queen Liliuokalani
 
could marshal a military force or armed citizens' force of sufficient
 
could marshal a military force or armed citizens' force of sufficient
 
magnitude and strength to reinstate her in her possession of the
 
magnitude and strength to reinstate her in her possession of the
 
Government?
 
Government?
Mr. MCCANDLESS. NO ; but we did not take any chances on that—
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Mr. {{sc|McCandless.}} No; but we did not take any chances on that—
 
we continued to perfect our organization and to extend it so as to be
 
we continued to perfect our organization and to extend it so as to be
 
ready for anything of that kind.
 
ready for anything of that kind.
The CHAIRMAN. Taking all you know about the Hawaiian Islands
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Taking all you know about the Hawaiian Islands
 
and the native population and the warmth of the men who were engaged
 
and the native population and the warmth of the men who were engaged
 
in and are now carrying on this Provisional Government, is it your
 
in and are now carrying on this Provisional Government, is it your
 
opinion that Liliuokalani has any chance toward reinstating herself
 
opinion that Liliuokalani has any chance toward reinstating herself
 
without the intervention of some foreign government?
 
without the intervention of some foreign government?
Mr. MCCANDLESS. None whatever. She has not had from the first.
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The CHAIRMAN. Did you regard the movement from the time it was
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Mr. {{sc|McCandless.}} None whatever. She has not had from the first.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Did you regard the movement from the time it was
 
inaugurated as one determined and resolute, or one that might give way
 
inaugurated as one determined and resolute, or one that might give way
 
to some counter movement on the Queen's part—some concessions on
 
to some counter movement on the Queen's part—some concessions on
her part ?
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her part?
Mr. MCCANDLESS. There never was any such idea prevailed there
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Mr. {{sc|McCandless.}} There never was any such idea prevailed there
 
that I know of. It was one of strict determination. We sent the commissioners
 
that I know of. It was one of strict determination. We sent the commissioners
 
to San Francisco. When we found that annexation had not
 
to San Francisco. When we found that annexation had not
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interests were in just as good hands under President Cleveland. We
 
interests were in just as good hands under President Cleveland. We
 
did not see how the dial could be turned backward.
 
did not see how the dial could be turned backward.
The CHAIRMAN. YOU say that annexation was the ultimate result of
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} You say that annexation was the ultimate result of
 
this revolution—that such was the belief of those who were engaged
 
this revolution—that such was the belief of those who were engaged
 
in it?
 
in it?
Mr. MCCANDLESS. Yes. You could not have gotten the men to take
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Mr. {{sc|McCandless.}} Yes. You could not have gotten the men to take
 
up arms otherwise. The whole object was annexation.
 
up arms otherwise. The whole object was annexation.
The CHAIRMAN. YOU spoke of that being the case the year before.
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Mr. MCCANDLESS. That was only a stepping-stone—the annexation
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} You spoke of that being the case the year before.
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Mr. {{sc|McCandless.}} That was only a stepping-stone—the annexation
 
movement in '87.
 
movement in '87.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you know whether the Kanaka population, the
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Do you know whether the Kanaka population, the
 
native population, sympathize in that sentiment?
 
native population, sympathize in that sentiment?
Mr. MCCANDLESS. In '87 they did. Nearly the whole native population
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Mr. {{sc|McCandless.}} In '87 they did. Nearly the whole native population
 
was on our side—sympathized with the movement. Of course
 
was on our side—sympathized with the movement. Of course
tli ere were none of them taken into the organization.
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there were none of them taken into the organization.
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The CHAIRMAN. Was that distinctively an annexation movement
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Was that distinctively an annexation movement
 
in'87?
 
in'87?
Mr. MCCANDLESS. Oh, yes.
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The CHAIRMAN. What change, if any, has occurred since that time?
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Mr. {{sc|McCandless.}} Oh, yes.
Mr. MCCANDLESS. The natives were completely captured with the
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} What change, if any, has occurred since that time?
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Mr. {{sc|McCandless.}} The natives were completely captured with the
 
idea of the lottery being there, and that there would be no further
 
idea of the lottery being there, and that there would be no further
 
trouble about having all the money they needed if they could get the
 
trouble about having all the money they needed if they could get the
 
lottery. They were carried away with that idea. The native is like
 
lottery. They were carried away with that idea. The native is like
 
an Indian; he will spend all the money he can get to gamble.
 
an Indian; he will spend all the money he can get to gamble.
The CHAIRMAN. They are gamblers ?
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Mr. MCCANDLESS. Yes.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} They are gamblers?
Senator GRAY. What is their principal game, cards?
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Mr. MCCANDLESS. They do not care for cards. They have a Chinese
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Mr. {{sc|McCandless.}} Yes.
game there called " Paka Pia " and che-fah. There Mfere as high
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Senator {{sc|Gray.}} What is their principal game, cards?
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Mr. {{sc|McCandless.}} They do not care for cards. They have a Chinese
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game there called "''Paka Pia''" and ''che-fah''. There were as high
 
as fifteen to twenty games running in the city at a time. That consisted
 
as fifteen to twenty games running in the city at a time. That consisted
 
of going in and buying the tickets, guessing a number or a word.
 
of going in and buying the tickets, guessing a number or a word.
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deputy marshal so much, and the others still less, making about a
 
deputy marshal so much, and the others still less, making about a
 
thousand dollars a week that was paid.
 
thousand dollars a week that was paid.
The CHAIRMAN. This Hawaiian sympathy. Had that died out
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} This Hawaiian sympathy. Had that died out
 
before the revolution?
 
before the revolution?
Mr. MCCANDLESS. I think it had.
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The CHAIRMAN. Among Kanakas.
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Mr. {{sc|McCandless.}} I think it had.
Mr. MCCANDLESS. I think so, although the annexation question had
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Among Kanakas.
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Mr. {{sc|McCandless.}} I think so, although the annexation question had
 
not been discussed publicly until the last two or three years. It was
 
not been discussed publicly until the last two or three years. It was
 
discussed then publicly through the press and openly.
 
discussed then publicly through the press and openly.
The CHAIRMAN. And that sentiment died out because they thought
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} And that sentiment died out because they thought
 
they could get the money under a separate government through lottery
 
they could get the money under a separate government through lottery
 
schemes and such like?
 
schemes and such like?
Mr. MCCANDLESS. Yes. I know the leaders of the last Legislature,
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Mr. {{sc|McCandless.}} Yes. I know the leaders of the last Legislature,
 
among the natives, would pat their pockets, right in the legislative
 
among the natives, would pat their pockets, right in the legislative
 
chamber, and say, "Here is what we are here for." It had gotten to
 
chamber, and say, "Here is what we are here for." It had gotten to
 
that condition. I have seen that myself, right in the legislative hall.
 
that condition. I have seen that myself, right in the legislative hall.
The CHAIRMAN. By the members of the Legislature?
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Mr. MCCANDLESS. By the members of the Legislature.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} By the members of the Legislature?
Senator GRAY. The white members?
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Mr. MCCANDLESS. The half-whites. It had gotten to that pass that
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Mr. {{sc|McCandless.}} By the members of the Legislature.
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Senator {{sc|Gray.}} The white members?
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Mr. {{sc|McCandless.}} The half-whites. It had gotten to that pass that
 
it was just about as corrupt as it could be.
 
it was just about as corrupt as it could be.
The CHAIRMAN. What time did you leave the islands to come over
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} What time did you leave the islands to come over
 
here?
 
here?
Mr. MCCANDLESS. The 1st day of June.
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The CHAIRMAN. Did you leave to come here to give your testimony?
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Mr. {{sc|McCandless.}} The 1st day of June.
Mr. MCCANDLESS. NO. I have larger interests in the State of Washington
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Did you leave to come here to give your testimony?
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Mr. {{sc|McCandless.}} No. I have larger interests in the State of Washington
 
than I have in the Hawaiian Islands. Like many people there,
 
than I have in the Hawaiian Islands. Like many people there,
 
I come to the States to invest my money. I went to the State of Washington
 
I come to the States to invest my money. I went to the State of Washington
in 18S6. My partner stayed there, and has been there ever
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in 1886. My partner stayed there, and has been there ever
 
since, and as I accumulate money I take it to the State of Washington.
 
since, and as I accumulate money I take it to the State of Washington.
The CHAIRMAN. Your visit to the United States is merely on' business
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?
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Your visit to the United States is merely on business?
Mr. MCCANDLESS. Yes. I would not have come over except that I
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Mr. {{sc|McCandless.}} Yes. I would not have come over except that I
 
promised my family to come to the Fair.
 
promised my family to come to the Fair.
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Senator Gray. When was that?

Mr. McCandless. That was probably the middle of February. I can not say the date.

The Chairman. Who was the marshal?

Mr. McCandless. George Ashley. He was appointed and removed afterwards.

The Chairman. Was any force used to put down that riot?

Mr. McCandless. Oh, no; that was allowed just to quietly subside.

The Chairman. Was there any occasion since the establishment of the Provisional Government when there were any riots which rendered it necessary, or it appeared to be necessary, to put them down?

Mr. McCandless. No.

The Chairman. The country has been in a peaceful state under the Provisional Government?

Mr. McCandless. Yes; there was only one thing they were afraid of, and that was incendiarism. Of course, we heard of that constantly— heard of it from the men it came from.

The Chairman. Threats of burnings?

Mr. McCandless. Threats of burnings.

The Chairman. After you had organized your force under Col. Soper on Tuesday the 17th, did you have any apprehension that Queen Liliuokalani could marshal a military force or armed citizens' force of sufficient magnitude and strength to reinstate her in her possession of the Government?

Mr. McCandless. No; but we did not take any chances on that— we continued to perfect our organization and to extend it so as to be ready for anything of that kind.

The Chairman. Taking all you know about the Hawaiian Islands and the native population and the warmth of the men who were engaged in and are now carrying on this Provisional Government, is it your opinion that Liliuokalani has any chance toward reinstating herself without the intervention of some foreign government?

Mr. McCandless. None whatever. She has not had from the first.

The Chairman. Did you regard the movement from the time it was inaugurated as one determined and resolute, or one that might give way to some counter movement on the Queen's part—some concessions on her part?

Mr. McCandless. There never was any such idea prevailed there that I know of. It was one of strict determination. We sent the commissioners to San Francisco. When we found that annexation had not taken place under Mr. Harrison's administration we felt that our interests were in just as good hands under President Cleveland. We did not see how the dial could be turned backward.

The Chairman. You say that annexation was the ultimate result of this revolution—that such was the belief of those who were engaged in it?

Mr. McCandless. Yes. You could not have gotten the men to take up arms otherwise. The whole object was annexation.

The Chairman. You spoke of that being the case the year before.

Mr. McCandless. That was only a stepping-stone—the annexation movement in '87.

The Chairman. Do you know whether the Kanaka population, the native population, sympathize in that sentiment?

Mr. McCandless. In '87 they did. Nearly the whole native population was on our side—sympathized with the movement. Of course there were none of them taken into the organization.

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The Chairman. Was that distinctively an annexation movement in'87?

Mr. McCandless. Oh, yes.

The Chairman. What change, if any, has occurred since that time?

Mr. McCandless. The natives were completely captured with the idea of the lottery being there, and that there would be no further trouble about having all the money they needed if they could get the lottery. They were carried away with that idea. The native is like an Indian; he will spend all the money he can get to gamble.

The Chairman. They are gamblers?

Mr. McCandless. Yes.

Senator Gray. What is their principal game, cards?

Mr. McCandless. They do not care for cards. They have a Chinese game there called "Paka Pia" and che-fah. There were as high as fifteen to twenty games running in the city at a time. That consisted of going in and buying the tickets, guessing a number or a word. It was a Chinese game, and they were very fond of it. It was a very common report that the marshal's office was receiving $500 a week to allow that game to continue—receiving the money from these different banks. The Chinese cook that I had at my place told me of it. The Chinese do not think anything of bribing, and the games are controlled by the Chinese. He said that the marshal got $500 a week and the deputy marshal so much, and the others still less, making about a thousand dollars a week that was paid.

The Chairman. This Hawaiian sympathy. Had that died out before the revolution?

Mr. McCandless. I think it had.

The Chairman. Among Kanakas.

Mr. McCandless. I think so, although the annexation question had not been discussed publicly until the last two or three years. It was discussed then publicly through the press and openly.

The Chairman. And that sentiment died out because they thought they could get the money under a separate government through lottery schemes and such like?

Mr. McCandless. Yes. I know the leaders of the last Legislature, among the natives, would pat their pockets, right in the legislative chamber, and say, "Here is what we are here for." It had gotten to that condition. I have seen that myself, right in the legislative hall.

The Chairman. By the members of the Legislature?

Mr. McCandless. By the members of the Legislature.

Senator Gray. The white members?

Mr. McCandless. The half-whites. It had gotten to that pass that it was just about as corrupt as it could be.

The Chairman. What time did you leave the islands to come over here?

Mr. McCandless. The 1st day of June.

The Chairman. Did you leave to come here to give your testimony?

Mr. McCandless. No. I have larger interests in the State of Washington than I have in the Hawaiian Islands. Like many people there, I come to the States to invest my money. I went to the State of Washington in 1886. My partner stayed there, and has been there ever since, and as I accumulate money I take it to the State of Washington.

The Chairman. Your visit to the United States is merely on business?

Mr. McCandless. Yes. I would not have come over except that I promised my family to come to the Fair.

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