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The CHAIRMAN. At guard mounting1?
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} At guard mounting?
Mr. HOBBS. Yes. At half-past 9, 1 think, word was passed that we
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs.}} Yes. At half-past 9, I think, word was passed that we
 
would not be allowed to visit the shore.
 
would not be allowed to visit the shore.
The CHAIRMAN. Were any preparations made during Sunday for
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Were any preparations made during Sunday for
 
sending troops ashoret
 
sending troops ashoret
Mr. HOBBS. I think not on Sunday.
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The CHAIRMAN. Were any made on Monday after these orders were
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs.}} I think not on Sunday.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Were any made on Monday after these orders were
 
given for the officers to remain on board?
 
given for the officers to remain on board?
Mr. HOBBS. If my recollection serves me correctly it was not until
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs.}} If my recollection serves me correctly it was not until
 
Monday afternoon, until 1 o'clock, after the men had their dinners, that
 
Monday afternoon, until 1 o'clock, after the men had their dinners, that
 
arrangements were made in case they were to land to get their belongings
 
arrangements were made in case they were to land to get their belongings
 
together, their equipments.
 
together, their equipments.
The CHAIRMAN. The equipments of such parties as went out from that
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} The equipments of such parties as went out from that
 
ship consisted first of arms and ammunition, and then provisions?
 
ship consisted first of arms and ammunition, and then provisions?
Mr. HOBBS. They did not go on shore until after they had their
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs.}} They did not go on shore until after they had their
 
supper that night, and they did not carry any provisions except some
 
supper that night, and they did not carry any provisions except some
 
hardtack, which was taken, and then Mr. Moore and I were left on board
 
hardtack, which was taken, and then Mr. Moore and I were left on board
 
ship to send provisions to them the next morning.
 
ship to send provisions to them the next morning.
The CHAIRMAN. DO you recollect Mr. Stevens coming aboard ship
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Do you recollect Mr. Stevens coming aboard ship
 
on Monday?
 
on Monday?
Mr. HOBBS. I do. I remember that he came on board ship about 3
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs.}} I do. I remember that he came on board ship about 3
 
o'clock Monday afternoon. I saw him aboard ship. I did not have any
 
o'clock Monday afternoon. I saw him aboard ship. I did not have any
 
conversation with him.
 
conversation with him.
The CHAIRMAN. Had these orders and preparations for sending ships
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Had these orders and preparations for sending ships
 
ashore been on foot before Mr. Stevens came on the ship?
 
ashore been on foot before Mr. Stevens came on the ship?
Mr. HOBBS. I am unable to state accurately in regard to that,
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs.}} I am unable to state accurately in regard to that,
 
because it would not come within my supervision in any event.
 
because it would not come within my supervision in any event.
The CHAIRMAN. But the order for the officers to remain on board
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} But the order for the officers to remain on board
 
ship was earlier?
 
ship was earlier?
Mr. HOBBS Yes, in the morning.
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The CHAIRMAN. Before Mr. Stevens came?
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs}} Yes, in the morning.
Mr. HOBBS. Oh, yes.
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The CHAIRMAN. Are those unusual orders when a vessel is in port?
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Before Mr. Stevens came?
Mr. HOBBS. Yes, I should say so. But it happened on one or two
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs.}} Oh, yes.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Are those unusual orders when a vessel is in port?
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs.}} Yes, I should say so. But it happened on one or two
 
occasions after the revolution, while Admiral Skerrett was there. I
 
occasions after the revolution, while Admiral Skerrett was there. I
 
think there were one or two days when we were not allowed to visit
 
think there were one or two days when we were not allowed to visit
 
the shore.
 
the shore.
The CHAIRMAN. It created the expectation that there was to be some
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} It created the expectation that there was to be some
 
need for the troops?
 
need for the troops?
Mr. HOBBS. It did.
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The CHAIRMAN. Then you went in on Tuesday morning?
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs.}} It did.
Mr. HOBBS. A t l o'clock Tuesday morning I went ashore on duty.
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The CHAIRMAN. Where were the United States troops then?
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Then you went in on Tuesday morning?
Mr. HOBBS. They were in a hall called Arion hall, in the rear of the
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs.}} At l o'clock Tuesday morning I went ashore on duty.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Where were the United States troops then?
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs.}} They were in a hall called Arion hall, in the rear of the
 
opera house.
 
opera house.
The CHAIRMAN. Quartered there?
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Mr. HOBBS. Took up their quarters there at 8 o'clock the evening
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Quartered there?
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs.}} Took up their quarters there at 8 o'clock the evening
 
before.
 
before.
The CHAIRMAN. HOW long did they remain there before going to
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Camp Boston ?
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} How long did they remain there before going to
Mr. HOBBS. About a week; Capt. Wiltse directed me to find the
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Camp Boston?
agent of the building and pay for its occupancy while our peojde were
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs.}} About a week; Capt. Wiltse directed me to find the
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agent of the building and pay for its occupancy while our people were
 
quartered there, which I did.
 
quartered there, which I did.
The CHAIRMAN. You had nothing to do with quartering the troops
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} You had nothing to do with quartering the troops
 
there, though?
 
there, though?
Mr. HOBBS. NO.
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs.}} No.
The CHAIRMAN. When the troops were at Camp Boston, did they
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} When the troops were at Camp Boston, did they
 
put up tents?
 
put up tents?
Mr. HOBBS. NO; they occupied a large house which belonged to Mr.
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs.}} No; they occupied a large house which belonged to Mr.
 
Bishop, with large, extensive grounds. For that establishment I paid
 
Bishop, with large, extensive grounds. For that establishment I paid
 
at the rate $75 per month. Mr. Damon, the agent, stated he had
 
at the rate $75 per month. Mr. Damon, the agent, stated he had
 
rented it for that purpose. That was since we were there. They
 
rented it for that purpose. That was since we were there. They
 
rented at that rate, and we paid the same rate.
 
rented at that rate, and we paid the same rate.
The CHAIRMAN. When you got off on Monday were all the troops at
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} When you got off on Monday were all the troops at
 
Arion Hall, or at different places?
 
Arion Hall, or at different places?
Mr. HOBBS. A large portion of the marines were at the consul-general's
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs.}} A large portion of the marines were at the consul-general's
 
office and about 12 at Mr. Stevens's house.
 
office and about 12 at Mr. Stevens's house.
The CHAIRMAN. Were you present at any interviews between the
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Were you present at any interviews between the
 
Queen's ministers and the persons who were then conducting the Provisional
 
Queen's ministers and the persons who were then conducting the Provisional
 
Government.
 
Government.
Mr. HOBBS. No.
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The CHAIRMAN. YOU know nothing of that?
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs.}} No.
Mr. HOBBS. NO.
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The CHAIRMAN. After the establishment of the Provisional Government,
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} You know nothing of that?
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs.}} No.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} After the establishment of the Provisional Government,
 
how long did you remain in Honolulu or Hawaii?
 
how long did you remain in Honolulu or Hawaii?
Mr. HOBBS. The ship Boston?
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The CHAIRMAN. Yes?
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs.}} The ship ''Boston?''
Mr. HOBBS. Until—I think we left there on the 26th of September
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Yes?
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs.}} Until—I think we left there on the 26th of September
 
last.
 
last.
The CHAIRMAN. You were not attached to any other ship ?
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Mr. HOBBS. NO.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} You were not attached to any other ship?
The CHAIRMAN. YOU came away with the Boston?
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Mr. HOBBS. Came away with the Boston.
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs.}} No.
The CHAIRMAN. During that period of time, from the establishment
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} You came away with the ''Boston?''
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs.}} Came away with the ''Boston''.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} During that period of time, from the establishment
 
of this Provisional Government until the time you left there, state
 
of this Provisional Government until the time you left there, state
 
whether peace and quietude and order prevailed in Honolulu, or were
 
whether peace and quietude and order prevailed in Honolulu, or were
 
there outbreaks, public agitations?
 
there outbreaks, public agitations?
Mr. HOBBS. Peace and quiet obtained all the time.
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The CHAIRMAN. Testing the government in control of public affairs
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs.}} Peace and quiet obtained all the time.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Testing the government in control of public affairs
 
there with what you saw of the condition of the community, commerce,
 
there with what you saw of the condition of the community, commerce,
 
trade, and all that, would you say that is a good government or bad
 
trade, and all that, would you say that is a good government or bad
 
government?
 
government?
Mr. HOBBS. I should say it was a good government.
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The CHAIRMAN. At any time that you have been in Hawaii, have you
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs.}} I should say it was a good government.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} At any time that you have been in Hawaii, have you
 
seen any government that you thought was better than that?
 
seen any government that you thought was better than that?
Mr. HOBBS. No.
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The CHAIRMAN. State whether you believe that the resources in command
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs.}} No.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} State whether you believe that the resources in command
 
of that Provisional Government, after it had been established by
 
of that Provisional Government, after it had been established by
 
men and money and arms and the support of the people, were such that
 
men and money and arms and the support of the people, were such that
 
the Queen, with what she had at her command and without assistance
 
the Queen, with what she had at her command and without assistance
 
from foreign powers, could have overcome that government.
 
from foreign powers, could have overcome that government.
Mr. HOBBS. In my opinion she never could, never.
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The CHAIRMAN. You think it would have been a rash and dangerous
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs.}} In my opinion she never could, never.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} You think it would have been a rash and dangerous
 
venture to undertake it?
 
venture to undertake it?
Mr. HOBBS. I do.
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The CHAIRMAN. DO you think now, without the assistance of for.
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs.}} I do.
eign governments, the Queen could break down the Provisional Gov
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eminent?
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Do you think now, without the assistance of foreign
Mr. HOBBS. I do not.
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governments, the Queen could break down the Provisional Goveminent?
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Mr. {{sc|Hobbs.}} I do not.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} So that, as to these limits on power and authority,
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would you consider that the Provisional Government is a more permanent
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government than a royal government could be at this time?

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The Chairman. At guard mounting?

Mr. Hobbs. Yes. At half-past 9, I think, word was passed that we would not be allowed to visit the shore.

The Chairman. Were any preparations made during Sunday for sending troops ashoret

Mr. Hobbs. I think not on Sunday.

The Chairman. Were any made on Monday after these orders were given for the officers to remain on board?

Mr. Hobbs. If my recollection serves me correctly it was not until Monday afternoon, until 1 o'clock, after the men had their dinners, that arrangements were made in case they were to land to get their belongings together, their equipments.

The Chairman. The equipments of such parties as went out from that ship consisted first of arms and ammunition, and then provisions?

Mr. Hobbs. They did not go on shore until after they had their supper that night, and they did not carry any provisions except some hardtack, which was taken, and then Mr. Moore and I were left on board ship to send provisions to them the next morning.

The Chairman. Do you recollect Mr. Stevens coming aboard ship on Monday?

Mr. Hobbs. I do. I remember that he came on board ship about 3 o'clock Monday afternoon. I saw him aboard ship. I did not have any conversation with him.

The Chairman. Had these orders and preparations for sending ships ashore been on foot before Mr. Stevens came on the ship?

Mr. Hobbs. I am unable to state accurately in regard to that, because it would not come within my supervision in any event.

The Chairman. But the order for the officers to remain on board ship was earlier?

Mr. Hobbs Yes, in the morning.

The Chairman. Before Mr. Stevens came?

Mr. Hobbs. Oh, yes.

The Chairman. Are those unusual orders when a vessel is in port?

Mr. Hobbs. Yes, I should say so. But it happened on one or two occasions after the revolution, while Admiral Skerrett was there. I think there were one or two days when we were not allowed to visit the shore.

The Chairman. It created the expectation that there was to be some need for the troops?

Mr. Hobbs. It did.

The Chairman. Then you went in on Tuesday morning?

Mr. Hobbs. At l o'clock Tuesday morning I went ashore on duty.

The Chairman. Where were the United States troops then?

Mr. Hobbs. They were in a hall called Arion hall, in the rear of the opera house.

The Chairman. Quartered there?

Mr. Hobbs. Took up their quarters there at 8 o'clock the evening before.

The Chairman. How long did they remain there before going to Camp Boston?

Mr. Hobbs. About a week; Capt. Wiltse directed me to find the agent of the building and pay for its occupancy while our people were quartered there, which I did.

The Chairman. You had nothing to do with quartering the troops there, though?

Mr. Hobbs. No.

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The Chairman. When the troops were at Camp Boston, did they put up tents?

Mr. Hobbs. No; they occupied a large house which belonged to Mr. Bishop, with large, extensive grounds. For that establishment I paid at the rate $75 per month. Mr. Damon, the agent, stated he had rented it for that purpose. That was since we were there. They rented at that rate, and we paid the same rate.

The Chairman. When you got off on Monday were all the troops at Arion Hall, or at different places?

Mr. Hobbs. A large portion of the marines were at the consul-general's office and about 12 at Mr. Stevens's house.

The Chairman. Were you present at any interviews between the Queen's ministers and the persons who were then conducting the Provisional Government.

Mr. Hobbs. No.

The Chairman. You know nothing of that?

Mr. Hobbs. No.

The Chairman. After the establishment of the Provisional Government, how long did you remain in Honolulu or Hawaii?

Mr. Hobbs. The ship Boston?

The Chairman. Yes?

Mr. Hobbs. Until—I think we left there on the 26th of September last.

The Chairman. You were not attached to any other ship?

Mr. Hobbs. No.

The Chairman. You came away with the Boston?

Mr. Hobbs. Came away with the Boston.

The Chairman. During that period of time, from the establishment of this Provisional Government until the time you left there, state whether peace and quietude and order prevailed in Honolulu, or were there outbreaks, public agitations?

Mr. Hobbs. Peace and quiet obtained all the time.

The Chairman. Testing the government in control of public affairs there with what you saw of the condition of the community, commerce, trade, and all that, would you say that is a good government or bad government?

Mr. Hobbs. I should say it was a good government.

The Chairman. At any time that you have been in Hawaii, have you seen any government that you thought was better than that?

Mr. Hobbs. No.

The Chairman. State whether you believe that the resources in command of that Provisional Government, after it had been established by men and money and arms and the support of the people, were such that the Queen, with what she had at her command and without assistance from foreign powers, could have overcome that government.

Mr. Hobbs. In my opinion she never could, never.

The Chairman. You think it would have been a rash and dangerous venture to undertake it?

Mr. Hobbs. I do.

The Chairman. Do you think now, without the assistance of foreign governments, the Queen could break down the Provisional Goveminent?

Mr. Hobbs. I do not.

The Chairman. So that, as to these limits on power and authority, would you consider that the Provisional Government is a more permanent government than a royal government could be at this time?