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1080 HAWAIIAN ISLANDS.
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Mr. BELKNAP. Yes; for the protection of the treaty.
+
Mr. {{sc|Belknap.}} Yesfor the protection of the treaty.
Senator BUTLER. Otherwise you would not think of doing such a
+
 
thing?
+
Senator {{sc|Butler.}} Otherwise you would not think of  
Mr. BELKNAP. No; such conditions could not exist there. When I
+
doing such a thing?
was a midshipman on board the frigate Puritan, at Valparaiso, Chile,
+
 
they held a presidential election in that country, and the party defeated
+
Mr. {{sc|Belknap.}}  No such conditions could not exist  
in that election got up a revolution, and one alternoon we lauded the
+
there.   When I was a
troops. We landed a force on that shore, and we remained on the
+
midshipman on board the frigate ''Puritan'', at  
wharf there several hours; the British ships did the same thing. We
+
Valparaiso, Chile, they held a
did not proceed up into town, but we were there for the purpose of protecting
+
presidential election in that country, and the party  
the consulate if necessary. In November, 1863, the Chinese at
+
defeated in that
the Barrier Forts fired on our flag. They fired from two of four forts;
+
election got up a revolution, and one afternoon we  
we captured all those forts, blew them up, razed them to the ground,
+
lauded the troops. We
and retired.
+
landed a force on that shore, and we remained on the  
Senator BUTLEII. That was an act of war.
+
wharf there several
The CHAIRMAN. But the firing began the war.
+
hours; the British ships did the same thing. We did
Mr. BELKNAP. The commodore in command was commended by the
+
not proceed up into
Secretary of the Navy for such action.
+
town, but we were there for the purpose of protecting  
Senator BUTLER. YOU would do that in Liverpool?
+
the consulate if
Mr. BELKNAP. Yes ; if the flag-was deliberately fired upon.
+
necessary.   In November, 1863, the Chinese at the
Senator BUTLER. If your flag were fired upon, you would not stop
+
Barrier Forts fired on
to consider the strength of the Government, but would fire in return?
+
our flag. They fired from two of four forts; we
Mr. BELKNAP. Yes.
+
captured all those forts,
The CHAIRMAN. I have drawn up a question which, according to my
+
blew them up, razed them to the ground, and retired.
view, presents the true relations of the commander of a ship in a port
+
 
to the minister of the United States who may be resident there at the
+
Senator {{sc|Butler.}} That was an act of war.
time. When a war ship of the United States is in a port where there
+
 
is a civil commotion which threatens to become riotous, to endanger
+
The {{sc|Chairman.}} But the firing began the war.
the treaty rights of the citizens of the United States, and the question
+
 
arises whether it is proper to land troops to preserve order, is it not
+
Mr. {{sc|Belknap.}} The commodore in command was commended  
the right and duty of the minister of the United States to ascertain
+
by the Secretary of
and determine whether the condition of the country is such as to require
+
the Navy for such action.
the landing of troops? In such a case, and as to the question whether
+
 
the necessity for the landing of troops actually existed, you would feel
+
Senator {{sc|Butler.}} You would do that in Liverpool?
bound, I suppose, if in command of a war ship of the United States,
+
 
to respect and follow the request of the minister of the United States
+
Mr. {{sc|Belknap.}} Yes; if the flag was deliberately fired  
to land the troops?
+
upon.
Mr. BELKNAP. A minister of the United States, of course, has a perfect
+
 
right to make any request of that sort of the commander of a ship,
+
Senator {{sc|Butler.}} If your flag were fired upon, you  
of a squadron, but it is the duty under the regulations of the Navy
+
would not stop to
Department for the commanding officer of the ship to examine the
+
consider the strength of the Government, but would  
matter himself and to decide for himself whether he ought to land the
+
fire in return?
force or not, because the responsibility under the regulations of the
+
 
Navy Department finally rests upon him. If any great mistake is made
+
Mr. {{sc|Belknap.}} Yes.
by which injury comes to the United States in their interests, or any
+
 
citizen suffers harm through the action of a commander in chief or a
+
The {{sc|Chairman.}} I have drawn up a question which,  
commander of a vessel, he is responsible. On the contrary, if he make
+
according to my view,
a mistake in landing the force he is also responsible under the regulations.
+
presents the true relations of the commander of a ship  
Senator PRYE. In the recognition of a de facto government, to whom
+
in a port to the
does the recognition belong—to the minister of the United States resident
+
minister of the United States who may be resident  
in such country or to the naval officer?
+
there at the time.   When
Mr. BELKNAP. It belongs to the minister.
+
a war ship of the United States is in a port where  
Senator FRYE. The naval officer has nothing to do with that question
+
there is a civil
of recognition ?
+
commotion which threatens to become riotous, to  
Mr. BELKNAP. Nothing to do with it. I was commander of the war
+
endanger the treaty rights
HAWAIIAN ISLANDS. 1081
+
of the citizens of the United States, and the question  
ship Alaska when the minister of the United States in Peru, Mr. Christiancy,
+
arises whether it is
recognized a new government during the Chilean-Peruvian
+
proper to land troops to preserve order, is it not the
wars. That government was overthrown, and when Mr. Hurlbut
+
right and duty of the
became minister he recognized another government.
+
minister of the United States to ascertain and
Senator FRYE. You were there all the time ?
+
determine whether the
Mr. BELKNAP. Yes. When I was at Honolulu in 1874 everything
+
condition of the country is such as to require the
was at the lowest ebb; property was worth nothing, the people could
+
landing of troops?   In
hardly get along. But that fall of 1874 Kalakaua, accompanied by
+
such a case, and as to the question whether the
the American minister, Mr. Pierce, came the United States and a treaty
+
necessity for the landing of
of reciprocity was negotiated. From that moment an era of prosperity
+
troops actually existed, you would feel bound, I  
dawned upon those islands and trade there increased several hundred
+
suppose, if in command of a
per cent. I think the 35,000,000 pounds of sugar exported from there
+
war ship of the United States, to respect and follow  
in 1875 went up to 136,000,000 pounds in 1800; and the product of rice
+
the request of the
increased in the same proportion. In fact the United States made
+
minister of the United States to land the troops?
those islands what they are—gave them all their prosperity. The town
+
 
of Honolulu is as much an American town as any town in this country.
+
Mr. {{sc|Belknap.}} A minister of the United States, of  
In 1882, when commanding the Alaska, I was sent in great haste to
+
course, has a perfect
Honolulufrom South America because troubles were apprehended there.
+
right to make any request of that sort of the  
The reciprocity treaty was about to expire, and many people there were
+
commander of a ship, of a
afraid that the United States would not renew it. Furthermore,
+
squadron, but it is the duty under the regulations of  
Kalakaua had gone into such extravagant expenditures that the people
+
the Navy Department
were getting restive under it. After being King for eight years he
+
for the commanding officer of the ship to examine the  
took the foolish notion into his head to be crowned, a ceremony carried
+
matter himself and to
out at enormous expense, and the taxpayers of the islands, a majority
+
decide for himself whether he ought to land the force
of whom were Americans, were stirred up over it and trouble was
+
or not, because the
apprehended.
+
responsibility under the regulations of the Navy
I arrived there early in September, 1882, and I stayed there two
+
Department finally rests
months. During that time there was a meeting of all the planters on
+
upon him. If any great mistake is made by which  
the islands in a convention at Honolulu. There was considerable
+
injury comes to the United
excitement, but finally, after some conferences with the Government,
+
States in their interests, or any citizen suffers harm  
the convention adjourned and everything passed off quietly. There
+
through the action of
was no trouble; but at that time I was prepared to land a force in case
+
a commander in chief or a commander of a vessel, he is  
of any outbreak. The English were very anxious to know what we
+
responsible. On the
were going to do. Mr. Wodehouse, the British commissioner, was there.
+
contrary, if he make a mistake in landing the force he  
One afternoon, or one morning, rather, Mr. Dagget, our minister, and
+
is also responsible
myself got an invitation to dine on a British man-of-war which was in
+
under the regulations.
the harbor. We were somewhat surprised at that. When we went on
+
 
board to dinner that evening we found Mr. Wodehouse there. During
+
Senator {{sc|Frye.}} In the recognition of a ''de facto''
the dinner champagne flowed pretty freely. After the coffee and cigars
+
government, to whom does
were brought in Mr. Wodehouse attempted to find out what we were
+
the recognition belong-to the minister of the United  
going to do there in a certain emergency. But they got no satisfaction;
+
States resident in such
Mr. Dagget and I simply confined ourselves to general talk. I
+
country or to the naval officer?
commanded at Mare Island from 1886 to 1889. That was during Mr.
+
 
Cleveland's first administration. Grave troubles were apprehended at
+
Mr. {{sc|Belknap.}} It belongs to the minister.
Honolulu at that time, and we kept our ships constantly there. One
+
 
afternoon I received a confidential telegram from the Secretary of the
+
Senator {{sc|Frye.}}The naval officer has nothing to do  
Navy asking me if I could be ready at a moment's notice to go over to
+
with that question of
Honolulu. 1 telegraphed back "yes." Two or three days after that I
+
recognition?  
got a telegram from the Secretary of the Navy saying that, after a consultation
+
 
with Mr. Bayard, Secretary of State, they had concluded to
+
Mr. {{sc|Belknap.}}  Nothing to do with it. I was commander  
send an order over to the minister by a telegram through me, which I
+
of the war
sent direct from the navy-yard to Honolulu.
+
 
Senator FRYE. DO you know what the nature of that telegram was?
+
{{p|1081}}
Mr. BELKNAP. I do not remember it, but it must be on file in the
+
ship Alaska when the minister of the United States in  
Navy Department. For the last ten years we have kept our ships in
+
Peru, Mr. Christiancy,
 +
recognized a new government during the  
 +
Chilean-Peruvian wars. That
 +
government was overthrown, and when Mr. Hurlbut became
 +
minister he
 +
recognized another government.
 +
 
 +
Senator {{sc|Frye.}} You were there all the time?
 +
 
 +
Mr. {{sc|Belknap.}}  Yes. When I was at Honolulu in 1874  
 +
everything was at the
 +
lowest ebb; property was worth nothing, the people  
 +
could hardly get along.
 +
But that fall of 1874 Kalakaua, accompanied by the
 +
American minister, Mr.
 +
Pierce, came the United States and a treaty of
 +
reciprocity was negotiated.
 +
From that moment an era of prosperity dawned upon  
 +
those islands and trade
 +
there increased several hundred per cent. I think the  
 +
35,000,000 pounds of
 +
sugar exported from there in 1875 went up to  
 +
136,000,000 pounds in 1890; and
 +
the product of rice increased in the same proportion.  
 +
In fact the United
 +
States made those islands what they are-gave them all  
 +
their prosperity. The
 +
town of Honolulu is as much an American town as any  
 +
town in this country. In
 +
1882, when commanding the ''Alaska'', I was sent in great  
 +
haste to Honolulu from
 +
South America because troubles were apprehended there.  
 +
The reciprocity
 +
treaty was about to expire, and many people there were  
 +
afraid that the
 +
United States would not renew it. Furthermore,  
 +
Kalakaua had gone into
 +
such extravagant expenditures that the people were
 +
getting restive under it.
 +
After being King for eight years he took the foolish  
 +
notion into his head to
 +
be crowned, a ceremony carried out at enormous  
 +
expense, and the taxpayers of
 +
the islands, a majority of whom were Americans, were  
 +
stirred up over it and
 +
trouble was apprehended.
 +
 
 +
I arrived there early in September, 1882, and I  
 +
stayed there two
 +
months. During that time there was a meeting of all  
 +
the planters on the
 +
islands in a convention at Honolulu. There was  
 +
considerable excitement, but
 +
finally, after some conferences with the Government,  
 +
the convention
 +
adjourned and everything passed off quietly. There was
 +
no trouble; but at
 +
that time I was prepared to land a force in case of
 +
any outbreak. The
 +
English were very anxious to know what we were going  
 +
to do. Mr. Wodehouse,
 +
the British commissioner, was there. One afternoon, or  
 +
one morning, rather,
 +
Mr. Dagget, our minister, and myself got an invitation  
 +
to dine on a British
 +
man-of-war which was in the harbor. We were somewhat  
 +
surprised at that. When
 +
we went on board to dinner that evening we found Mr.  
 +
Wodehouse there. During
 +
the dinner champagne flowed pretty freely.   After the  
 +
coffee and cigars
 +
were brought in Mr. Wodehouse attempted to find out  
 +
what we were going to do
 +
there in a certain emergency. But they got no  
 +
satisfaction; Mr. Dagget and I
 +
simply confined ourselves to general talk. I commanded
 +
at Mare Island from
 +
1886 to 1889. That was during Mr. Cleveland's first  
 +
administration. Grave
 +
troubles were apprehended at Honolulu at that time,  
 +
and we kept our ships
 +
constantly there. One afternoon I received a  
 +
confidential telegram from the
 +
Secretary of the Navy asking me if I could be ready at  
 +
a moment's notice to
 +
go over to Honolulu. I telegraphed back "yes."   Two  
 +
or three days after
 +
that I got a telegram from the Secretary of the Navy  
 +
saying that, after a
 +
consultation with Mr. Bayard, Secretary of State,  
 +
they had concluded to
 +
send an order over to the minister by a telegram  
 +
through me, which I sent
 +
direct from the navy-yard to Honolulu.
 +
 
 +
Senator {{sc|Frye.}} Do you know what the nature of that  
 +
telegram was?  
 +
 
 +
Mr. {{sc|Belknap.}} I do not remember it, but it must be on file  
 +
in the Navy
 +
Department.   For the last ten years we have kept our  
 +
ships in

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Mr. Belknap. Yes, for the protection of the treaty.

Senator Butler. Otherwise you would not think of doing such a thing?

Mr. Belknap. No such conditions could not exist there. When I was a midshipman on board the frigate Puritan, at Valparaiso, Chile, they held a presidential election in that country, and the party defeated in that election got up a revolution, and one afternoon we lauded the troops. We landed a force on that shore, and we remained on the wharf there several hours; the British ships did the same thing. We did not proceed up into town, but we were there for the purpose of protecting the consulate if necessary. In November, 1863, the Chinese at the Barrier Forts fired on our flag. They fired from two of four forts; we captured all those forts, blew them up, razed them to the ground, and retired.

Senator Butler. That was an act of war.

The Chairman. But the firing began the war.

Mr. Belknap. The commodore in command was commended by the Secretary of the Navy for such action.

Senator Butler. You would do that in Liverpool?

Mr. Belknap. Yes; if the flag was deliberately fired upon.

Senator Butler. If your flag were fired upon, you would not stop to consider the strength of the Government, but would fire in return?

Mr. Belknap. Yes.

The Chairman. I have drawn up a question which, according to my view, presents the true relations of the commander of a ship in a port to the minister of the United States who may be resident there at the time. When a war ship of the United States is in a port where there is a civil commotion which threatens to become riotous, to endanger the treaty rights of the citizens of the United States, and the question arises whether it is proper to land troops to preserve order, is it not the right and duty of the minister of the United States to ascertain and determine whether the condition of the country is such as to require the landing of troops? In such a case, and as to the question whether the necessity for the landing of troops actually existed, you would feel bound, I suppose, if in command of a war ship of the United States, to respect and follow the request of the minister of the United States to land the troops?

Mr. Belknap. A minister of the United States, of course, has a perfect right to make any request of that sort of the commander of a ship, of a squadron, but it is the duty under the regulations of the Navy Department for the commanding officer of the ship to examine the matter himself and to decide for himself whether he ought to land the force or not, because the responsibility under the regulations of the Navy Department finally rests upon him. If any great mistake is made by which injury comes to the United States in their interests, or any citizen suffers harm through the action of a commander in chief or a commander of a vessel, he is responsible. On the contrary, if he make a mistake in landing the force he is also responsible under the regulations.

Senator Frye. In the recognition of a de facto government, to whom does the recognition belong-to the minister of the United States resident in such country or to the naval officer?

Mr. Belknap. It belongs to the minister.

Senator Frye.The naval officer has nothing to do with that question of recognition?

Mr. Belknap. Nothing to do with it. I was commander of the war

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ship Alaska when the minister of the United States in Peru, Mr. Christiancy, recognized a new government during the Chilean-Peruvian wars. That government was overthrown, and when Mr. Hurlbut became minister he recognized another government.

Senator Frye. You were there all the time?

Mr. Belknap. Yes. When I was at Honolulu in 1874 everything was at the lowest ebb; property was worth nothing, the people could hardly get along. But that fall of 1874 Kalakaua, accompanied by the American minister, Mr. Pierce, came the United States and a treaty of reciprocity was negotiated. From that moment an era of prosperity dawned upon those islands and trade there increased several hundred per cent. I think the 35,000,000 pounds of sugar exported from there in 1875 went up to 136,000,000 pounds in 1890; and the product of rice increased in the same proportion. In fact the United States made those islands what they are-gave them all their prosperity. The town of Honolulu is as much an American town as any town in this country. In 1882, when commanding the Alaska, I was sent in great haste to Honolulu from South America because troubles were apprehended there. The reciprocity treaty was about to expire, and many people there were afraid that the United States would not renew it. Furthermore, Kalakaua had gone into such extravagant expenditures that the people were getting restive under it. After being King for eight years he took the foolish notion into his head to be crowned, a ceremony carried out at enormous expense, and the taxpayers of the islands, a majority of whom were Americans, were stirred up over it and trouble was apprehended.

I arrived there early in September, 1882, and I stayed there two months. During that time there was a meeting of all the planters on the islands in a convention at Honolulu. There was considerable excitement, but finally, after some conferences with the Government, the convention adjourned and everything passed off quietly. There was no trouble; but at that time I was prepared to land a force in case of any outbreak. The English were very anxious to know what we were going to do. Mr. Wodehouse, the British commissioner, was there. One afternoon, or one morning, rather, Mr. Dagget, our minister, and myself got an invitation to dine on a British man-of-war which was in the harbor. We were somewhat surprised at that. When we went on board to dinner that evening we found Mr. Wodehouse there. During the dinner champagne flowed pretty freely. After the coffee and cigars were brought in Mr. Wodehouse attempted to find out what we were going to do there in a certain emergency. But they got no satisfaction; Mr. Dagget and I simply confined ourselves to general talk. I commanded at Mare Island from 1886 to 1889. That was during Mr. Cleveland's first administration. Grave troubles were apprehended at Honolulu at that time, and we kept our ships constantly there. One afternoon I received a confidential telegram from the Secretary of the Navy asking me if I could be ready at a moment's notice to go over to Honolulu. I telegraphed back "yes." Two or three days after that I got a telegram from the Secretary of the Navy saying that, after a consultation with Mr. Bayard, Secretary of State, they had concluded to send an order over to the minister by a telegram through me, which I sent direct from the navy-yard to Honolulu.

Senator Frye. Do you know what the nature of that telegram was?

Mr. Belknap. I do not remember it, but it must be on file in the Navy Department. For the last ten years we have kept our ships in