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Vice-President Damon came a few days afterward and was examined.
 
Vice-President Damon came a few days afterward and was examined.
 
Earlier than this Mr. Bishop, connected with the press, was examined.
 
Earlier than this Mr. Bishop, connected with the press, was examined.
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I did not suppose that there was any withholding of it from the Government
 
I did not suppose that there was any withholding of it from the Government
 
at all; I think they knew very well what I was doing.
 
at all; I think they knew very well what I was doing.
The CHAIRMAN. Allow me to inquire whether Sereno Bishop is a
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Allow me to inquire whether Sereno Bishop is a
 
relative of the wealthy man who has made so many endowments there?
 
relative of the wealthy man who has made so many endowments there?
Mr. BLOUNT. 1 think not; I think Charles E. Bishop came from Boston—
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Mr. {{sc|Blount.}} I think not; I think Charles E. Bishop came from Boston—
 
a young man.
 
a young man.
The CHAIRMAN. And married a native?
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Mr. BLOUNT. A native princess. He is a very excellent gentleman.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} And married a native?
Sereno Bishop's father was a missionary. I think I have this from Mr,
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Bishop. He was born down at Bahama, on the island of Maui, the
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Mr. {{sc|Blount.}} A native princess. He is a very excellent gentleman.
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Sereno Bishop's father was a missionary. I think I have this from Mr.
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Bishop. He was born down at Lahaina, on the island of Maui, the
 
old capital.
 
old capital.
Seuator DOLPH. Who were the people representing the Queen's
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Senator {{sc|Dolph.}} Who were the people representing the Queen's
 
cause—her side of the controversy ?
 
cause—her side of the controversy ?
Mr. BLOUNT. DO you mean before me?
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Senator DOLPH. No; I do not mean to say there was any representation
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Mr. {{sc|Blount.}} Do you mean before me?
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Senator {{sc|Dolph.}} No; I do not mean to say there was any representation
 
before you. I understand that was with closed doors; there was
 
before you. I understand that was with closed doors; there was
 
no one present but you and the stenographer. I mean persons who
 
no one present but you and the stenographer. I mean persons who
 
saw you in the islands.
 
saw you in the islands.
The CHAIRMAN. The alleged leaders of the Queen's cause.
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Senator DOLPH. The alleged leaders of her government.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} The alleged leaders of the Queen's cause.
Mr. BLOUNT. DO you mean leaders in the sense of counseling in this
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Senator {{sc|Dolph.}} The alleged leaders of her government.
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Mr. {{sc|Blount.}} Do you mean leaders in the sense of counseling in this
 
investigation?
 
investigation?
Senator DOLPH. That assumes that I am assuming that you allowed
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Senator {{sc|Dolph.}} That assumes that I am assuming that you allowed
 
yourself to be counseled and directed by these people. I do not wish
 
yourself to be counseled and directed by these people. I do not wish
 
to convey any such impression. People called on you and talked with
 
to convey any such impression. People called on you and talked with
 
you, and I understood they called from early morning until late at
 
you, and I understood they called from early morning until late at
 
night, and they talked about the matter of this revolution.
 
night, and they talked about the matter of this revolution.
Mr. BLOUNT. I think you are entirely courteous; but this matter
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goes down in print, and therefore, I ask tliat everything be made plain,
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Mr. {{sc|Blount.}} I think you are entirely courteous; but this matter
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goes down in print, and therefore, I ask that everything be made plain,
 
and that my every answer may be correct. I am not in the condition
 
and that my every answer may be correct. I am not in the condition
 
that you gentlemen are. I understand that I am the subject of a great
 
that you gentlemen are. I understand that I am the subject of a great
deal of criticism, Avhich is legitimate, and I want to understand the
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deal of criticism, which is legitimate, and I want to understand the
 
questions I am answering.
 
questions I am answering.
The CHAIRMAN. YOU mean to say that the right to criticise you is a
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} You mean to say that the right to criticise you is a
 
legitimate one?
 
legitimate one?
Mr. BLOUNT. Yes.
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Senator DOLPH. I do not mean to criticise you. I wish to know who
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Mr. {{sc|Blount.}} Yes.
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Senator {{sc|Dolph.}} I do not mean to criticise you. I wish to know who
 
were the people who appeared, who called to represent the Queen's
 
were the people who appeared, who called to represent the Queen's
 
interest. That is all.
 
interest. That is all.
The CHAIRMAN. Who were the reputed leaders of the royal party?
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Senator GRAY. Whom you met.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Who were the reputed leaders of the royal party?
Mr. BLOUNT. The matter of leadership there is a very uncertain
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Senator {{sc|Gray.}} Whom you met.
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Mr. {{sc|Blount.}} The matter of leadership there is a very uncertain
 
thing. There are a good many factions amongst them, as you will see
 
thing. There are a good many factions amongst them, as you will see
 
from the testimony. But I would say that amongst the more prominent
 
from the testimony. But I would say that amongst the more prominent
persons in the islands you will find Mr. J. O. A. Carter, Mr. E. C. Mac-
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persons in the islands you will find Mr. J. O. A. Carter, Mr. E. C. MacFarlane, Mr. Parker---
Farlane, Mr. Parker
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The CHAIRMAN. Sam Parker?
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Sam Parker?
Mr. BLOUNT. Sam Parker—a man by the name of Bush. He is
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Mr. {{sc|Blount.}} Sam Parker—a man by the name of Bush. He is
 
another leader amongst them. They rather struck me with a little
 
another leader amongst them. They rather struck me with a little
 
more positive force than some others.
 
more positive force than some others.
Senator DOLPH. At the time the revolution took place how many of
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Senator {{sc|Dolph.}} At the time the revolution took place how many of
 
the cabinet acted in their interest while you were there?
 
the cabinet acted in their interest while you were there?
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Mr. BLOUNT. I never saw any cabinet at all. I kept aloof from their
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Mr. {{sc|Blount.}} I never saw any cabinet at all. I kept aloof from their
 
politics. I stayed in that building away from the social life.
 
politics. I stayed in that building away from the social life.
Senator GRAY. Did you participate in the social life of the city?
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Mr. BLOUNT. Not at all, except I found myself bound to accept
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Senator {{sc|Gray.}} Did you participate in the social life of the city?
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Mr. {{sc|Blount.}} Not at all, except I found myself bound to accept
 
invitations from President Dole and other officials. And there was a
 
invitations from President Dole and other officials. And there was a
 
Mr. Glade, a German, there, a member of the committee of safety, and
 
Mr. Glade, a German, there, a member of the committee of safety, and
 
the consul-general of Germany. I thought I could make a few calls
 
the consul-general of Germany. I thought I could make a few calls
 
of that sort—calling on the officials.
 
of that sort—calling on the officials.
The CHAIRMAN. You say Mr. Glade was the consul-general of Germany,
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} You say Mr. Glade was the consul-general of Germany,
 
and still a member of the committee of safety?
 
and still a member of the committee of safety?
Mr. BLOUNT. He was a member of the committee of safety and a
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Mr. {{sc|Blount.}} He was a member of the committee of safety and a
 
very active man in it.
 
very active man in it.
Senator DOLPH. Did you meet those who were members of the
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Senator {{sc|Dolph.}} Did you meet those who were members of the
 
Queen's cabinet at the time the revolution took place?
 
Queen's cabinet at the time the revolution took place?
Mr. BLOUNT. Oh, yes.
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Senator DOLPH. Talk with them?
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Mr. {{sc|Blount.}} Oh, yes.
Mr. BLOUNT. Oh, yes.
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Senator DOLPII. Did any of them defend the restoration of the
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Senator {{sc|Dolph.}} Talk with them?
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Mr. {{sc|Blount.}} Oh, yes.
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Senator {{sc|Dolph.}}  Did any of them defend the restoration of the
 
Queen, defend her rights?
 
Queen, defend her rights?
Mr. BLOUNT. They were all for restoration, as I understood them?
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Senator DOLPH. All the members of the cabinet?
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Mr. {{sc|Blount.}} They were all for restoration, as I understood them?
Mr. BLOUNT. Yes. I think that will appear from the papers.
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Senator DOLPH. Were they examined before you?
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Senator {{sc|Dolph.}} All the members of the cabinet?
Mr. BLOUNT. I remember very distinctly Mr. Parker's examination.
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Mr. {{sc|Blount.}} Yes. I think that will appear from the papers.
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Senator {{sc|Dolph.}} Were they examined before you?
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Mr. {{sc|Blount.}} I remember very distinctly Mr. Parker's examination.
 
Whatever was done is in the record. As I say, I have not seen these
 
Whatever was done is in the record. As I say, I have not seen these
 
papers in six months.
 
papers in six months.
Senator DOLPH. Did Mr. Nordhoff talk to you about this matter?
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Mr. BLOUNT. Mr. Nordhoff was like a good many other people ; he
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Senator {{sc|Dolph.}} Did Mr. Nordhoff talk to you about this matter?
would talk ; but I did not confide in Mr. Nordhoff.
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Senator DOLPH. YOU listened to what he had to say ?
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Mr. {{sc|Blount.}} Mr. Nordhoff was like a good many other people; he
Mr. BLOUNT. Oh, yes.
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would talk; but I did not confide in Mr. Nordhoff.
Senator DOLPH. YOU did not disclose your instructions to him, but
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Senator {{sc|Dolph.}} You listened to what he had to say ?
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Mr. {{sc|Blount.}} Oh, yes.
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Senator {{sc|Dolph.}} You did not disclose your instructions to him, but
 
got what information you could from him?
 
got what information you could from him?
Mr. BLOUNT. I let him talk. He never stayed long; he would talk
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Mr. {{sc|Blount.}} I let him talk. He never stayed long; he would talk
 
and go away.
 
and go away.
Senator DOLPH. Was anybody examined through Mr. Nordhoff?
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Mr. BLOUNT. NO.
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Senator {{sc|Dolph.}} Was anybody examined through Mr. Nordhoff?
Senator DOLPH. Any documents furnished you through him?
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Mr. BLOUNT. He brought me one day a letter from Dr. Trosseau, a
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Mr. {{sc|Blount.}} No.
physician there, the family physician of Mrs. Carter, an xcellent lady
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(the wife of the ex-minister and sister of the chief justice end of Justice
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Senator {{sc|Dolph.}} Any documents furnished you through him?
Bickerton, as I learned by accident). I think so; I have noa had a chance
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to examine these papers. It seems to me that that papertthis man sent
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Mr. {{sc|Blount.}} He brought me one day a letter from Dr. Trosseau, a
to me—he wanted access to me, and he went to Nordhoff and Nordhofi
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physician there, the family physician of Mrs. Carter, an excellent lady
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(the wife of the ex-minister and sister of the chief justice and of Justice
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Bickerton, as I learned by accident). I think so; I have not had a chance
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to examine these papers. It seems to me that that paper this man sent
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to me—he wanted access to me, and he went to Nordhoff and Nordhoff
 
wrote me a note inclosing these papers. They were in there. And it
 
wrote me a note inclosing these papers. They were in there. And it
 
seems there was this communication from Nordhoff and a communication
 
seems there was this communication from Nordhoff and a communication
 
from this other man missing.
 
from this other man missing.
Senator GRAY. There is a communication from a Frenchman who
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Senator {{sc|Gray.}} There is a communication from a Frenchman who
 
was the physician of this Queen as well as the other people.
 
was the physician of this Queen as well as the other people.
Mr. BLOUNT. There was a communication he sent. I did not like it.
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Mr. {{sc|Blount.}} There was a communication he sent. I did not like it.
 
I never said a word to anybody about this paper from this physician,
 
I never said a word to anybody about this paper from this physician,
 
and I never sent for him. I made it a point not to get acquainted with
 
and I never sent for him. I made it a point not to get acquainted with

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Vice-President Damon came a few days afterward and was examined. Earlier than this Mr. Bishop, connected with the press, was examined. There were several persons on the annexation side who were examined. I did not suppose that there was any withholding of it from the Government at all; I think they knew very well what I was doing.

The Chairman. Allow me to inquire whether Sereno Bishop is a relative of the wealthy man who has made so many endowments there?

Mr. Blount. I think not; I think Charles E. Bishop came from Boston— a young man.

The Chairman. And married a native?

Mr. Blount. A native princess. He is a very excellent gentleman. Sereno Bishop's father was a missionary. I think I have this from Mr. Bishop. He was born down at Lahaina, on the island of Maui, the old capital.

Senator Dolph. Who were the people representing the Queen's cause—her side of the controversy ?

Mr. Blount. Do you mean before me?

Senator Dolph. No; I do not mean to say there was any representation before you. I understand that was with closed doors; there was no one present but you and the stenographer. I mean persons who saw you in the islands.

The Chairman. The alleged leaders of the Queen's cause.

Senator Dolph. The alleged leaders of her government.

Mr. Blount. Do you mean leaders in the sense of counseling in this investigation?

Senator Dolph. That assumes that I am assuming that you allowed yourself to be counseled and directed by these people. I do not wish to convey any such impression. People called on you and talked with you, and I understood they called from early morning until late at night, and they talked about the matter of this revolution.

Mr. Blount. I think you are entirely courteous; but this matter goes down in print, and therefore, I ask that everything be made plain, and that my every answer may be correct. I am not in the condition that you gentlemen are. I understand that I am the subject of a great deal of criticism, which is legitimate, and I want to understand the questions I am answering.

The Chairman. You mean to say that the right to criticise you is a legitimate one?

Mr. Blount. Yes.

Senator Dolph. I do not mean to criticise you. I wish to know who were the people who appeared, who called to represent the Queen's interest. That is all.

The Chairman. Who were the reputed leaders of the royal party?

Senator Gray. Whom you met.

Mr. Blount. The matter of leadership there is a very uncertain thing. There are a good many factions amongst them, as you will see from the testimony. But I would say that amongst the more prominent persons in the islands you will find Mr. J. O. A. Carter, Mr. E. C. MacFarlane, Mr. Parker---

The Chairman. Sam Parker?

Mr. Blount. Sam Parker—a man by the name of Bush. He is another leader amongst them. They rather struck me with a little more positive force than some others.

Senator Dolph. At the time the revolution took place how many of the cabinet acted in their interest while you were there?

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Mr. Blount. I never saw any cabinet at all. I kept aloof from their politics. I stayed in that building away from the social life.

Senator Gray. Did you participate in the social life of the city?

Mr. Blount. Not at all, except I found myself bound to accept invitations from President Dole and other officials. And there was a Mr. Glade, a German, there, a member of the committee of safety, and the consul-general of Germany. I thought I could make a few calls of that sort—calling on the officials.

The Chairman. You say Mr. Glade was the consul-general of Germany, and still a member of the committee of safety?

Mr. Blount. He was a member of the committee of safety and a very active man in it.

Senator Dolph. Did you meet those who were members of the Queen's cabinet at the time the revolution took place?

Mr. Blount. Oh, yes.

Senator Dolph. Talk with them?

Mr. Blount. Oh, yes.

Senator Dolph. Did any of them defend the restoration of the Queen, defend her rights?

Mr. Blount. They were all for restoration, as I understood them?

Senator Dolph. All the members of the cabinet?

Mr. Blount. Yes. I think that will appear from the papers.

Senator Dolph. Were they examined before you?

Mr. Blount. I remember very distinctly Mr. Parker's examination. Whatever was done is in the record. As I say, I have not seen these papers in six months.

Senator Dolph. Did Mr. Nordhoff talk to you about this matter?

Mr. Blount. Mr. Nordhoff was like a good many other people; he would talk; but I did not confide in Mr. Nordhoff.

Senator Dolph. You listened to what he had to say ?

Mr. Blount. Oh, yes.

Senator Dolph. You did not disclose your instructions to him, but got what information you could from him?

Mr. Blount. I let him talk. He never stayed long; he would talk and go away.

Senator Dolph. Was anybody examined through Mr. Nordhoff?

Mr. Blount. No.

Senator Dolph. Any documents furnished you through him?

Mr. Blount. He brought me one day a letter from Dr. Trosseau, a physician there, the family physician of Mrs. Carter, an excellent lady (the wife of the ex-minister and sister of the chief justice and of Justice Bickerton, as I learned by accident). I think so; I have not had a chance to examine these papers. It seems to me that that paper this man sent to me—he wanted access to me, and he went to Nordhoff and Nordhoff wrote me a note inclosing these papers. They were in there. And it seems there was this communication from Nordhoff and a communication from this other man missing.

Senator Gray. There is a communication from a Frenchman who was the physician of this Queen as well as the other people.

Mr. Blount. There was a communication he sent. I did not like it. I never said a word to anybody about this paper from this physician, and I never sent for him. I made it a point not to get acquainted with him for some time after that occurred. For some time he used to come to the hotel, and for a long time I never met him. I did not care for anybody else to make suggestions. I said nothing to Mr. Nordhoff in any way about it; but I did not send for Dr. Trosseau. I did not like