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The CHAIRMAN. Proceeding from this period when you say there was
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Proceeding from this period when you say there was
 
an interregnum to the time when you ordered the American flag to be
 
an interregnum to the time when you ordered the American flag to be
 
hoisted in Hawaii, I will ask you what was the condition of the people
 
hoisted in Hawaii, I will ask you what was the condition of the people
 
as to order and quietude and the conduct of their ordinary vocations?
 
as to order and quietude and the conduct of their ordinary vocations?
Mr. STEVENS. You mean between the time of the recognition of the
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Provisional Government and tl»e raising of the flag?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} You mean between the time of the recognition of the
The CHAIRMAN. Yes.
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Provisional Government and the raising of the flag?
Mr. STEVENS. I will say that the people were generally at their avocations,
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Yes.
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} I will say that the people were generally at their avocations,
 
except that the citizens had constituted themselves soldiers—
 
except that the citizens had constituted themselves soldiers—
 
the men from stores, the banks, and the workshops, responsible men—
 
the men from stores, the banks, and the workshops, responsible men—
were conatituted the military force for the time being.
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were constituted the military force for the time being.
The CHAIRMAN. To what extent had this volunteer military organization
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} To what extent had this volunteer military organization
 
increased?
 
increased?
Mr. STEVENS. Volunteer and otherwise I could not tell precisely;
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Volunteer and otherwise I could not tell precisely;
 
but I should say all the way from 400 to 600 men.
 
but I should say all the way from 400 to 600 men.
The CHAIRMAN. Armed men ?
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Mr. STEVENS. Men they could place arms with. They were white
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Armed men?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Men they could place arms with. They were white
 
men accustomed to the use of muskets. But the men actually on military
 
men accustomed to the use of muskets. But the men actually on military
 
duty probably would not be half that number.
 
duty probably would not be half that number.
The CHAIRMAN. Were the men organized for the purpose of repressing
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Were the men organized for the purpose of repressing
 
mobs and incendiarism, or organized and armed for the purpose of
 
mobs and incendiarism, or organized and armed for the purpose of
 
supporting the Provisional Government?
 
supporting the Provisional Government?
Mr. STEVENS. The public order.
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The CHAIRMAN. I want to ask you whether they were organized for
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} The public order.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} I want to ask you whether they were organized for
 
the purpose of preserving public order, or for the purpose of supporting
 
the purpose of preserving public order, or for the purpose of supporting
 
the Provisional Government?
 
the Provisional Government?
Mr. STEVENS. They regarded the Provisional Government as the
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} They regarded the Provisional Government as the
 
instrument through which they would preserve order.
 
instrument through which they would preserve order.
The CHAIRMAN. They were considered troops of the Provisional Government?
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Mr. STEVENS. They were supporters of the Provisional Government.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} They were considered troops of the Provisional Government?
The CHAIRMAN. Were they under the control of the Provisional Government?
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Mr. STEVENS. Yes. Those volunteers would never be called upon
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} They were supporters of the Provisional Government.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Were they under the control of the Provisional Government?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Yes. Those volunteers would never be called upon
 
except in an emergency. They had a military force which was disciplined,
 
except in an emergency. They had a military force which was disciplined,
 
and they had this force from the workshops.
 
and they had this force from the workshops.
The CHAIRMAN. What was the number of the disciplined force?
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Mr. STEVENS. I could not speak with accuracy at this moment.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} What was the number of the disciplined force?
The CHAIRMAN. What is your opinion?
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Mr. STEVENS. I should say 150 men—possibly 200.
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} I could not speak with accuracy at this moment.
The CHAIRMAN. Were they organized in military companies ?
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Mr. STEVENS. Military companies.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} What is your opinion?
The CHAIRMAN. Under the command of Col. Soper?
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Mr. STEVENS. Under Col. Soper, I think.
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} I should say 150 men—possibly 200.
The CHAIRMAN. Were there captains of companies?
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Mr. STEVENS. I do not know Capt. Ziegler; but I think he was the
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Were they organized in military companies?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Military companies.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Under the command of Col. Soper?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Under Col. Soper, I think.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Were there captains of companies?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} I do not know Capt. Ziegler; but I think he was the
 
captain of the German company at the Government house.
 
captain of the German company at the Government house.
The CHAIRMAN. Were there other captains?
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Mr. STEVENS. Yes. I think there was another captain, Fisher, from
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Were there other captains?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Yes. I think there was another captain, Fisher, from
 
one of the banks, who was the captain at the barracks; the third company,
 
one of the banks, who was the captain at the barracks; the third company,
 
Capt. Goud.
 
Capt. Goud.
The CHAIRMAN. In that period which you call the interregnum, was
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there any outbreak ?
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} In that period which you call the interregnum, was
Mr. STEVENS. There was no outbreak; they feared an outbreak.
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there any outbreak?
The CHAIRMAN. Was there any demonstration to show that an outbreak
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} There was no outbreak; they feared an outbreak.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Was there any demonstration to show that an outbreak
 
was contemplated?
 
was contemplated?
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Mr. STEVENS. I think their fears came from private information. I
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} I think their fears came from private information. I
 
think there was no external signs of it. Of course the authorities put
 
think there was no external signs of it. Of course the authorities put
 
themselves as much in touch with the facts as they possibly could, and
 
themselves as much in touch with the facts as they possibly could, and
 
they sometimes may have been alarmed unduly, as men would be in
 
they sometimes may have been alarmed unduly, as men would be in
 
such circumstances.
 
such circumstances.
The CHAIRMAN. Did you believe that there was a general public
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Did you believe that there was a general public
 
apprehension in that time, covering the period that I have just referred
 
apprehension in that time, covering the period that I have just referred
 
to, of any armed demonstration against the Provisional Government,
 
to, of any armed demonstration against the Provisional Government,
 
or any incendiarism, or any mob violence?
 
or any incendiarism, or any mob violence?
Mr. STEVENS. Yes; very strong; so strong they got information that
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Yes; very strong; so strong they got information that
 
they barricaded the Government building and got ready for anything.
 
they barricaded the Government building and got ready for anything.
 
It is very likely half the time that the alarms were bogus?
 
It is very likely half the time that the alarms were bogus?
The CHAIRMAN. During this period of time where was the Queen?
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Mr. STEVENS. The Queen was in her Washington house. That was
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} During this period of time where was the Queen?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} The Queen was in her Washington house. That was
 
the house left to her by her husband, and by the husband's mother left
 
the house left to her by her husband, and by the husband's mother left
 
to him. It is the Washington house; well-known place, close to the
 
to him. It is the Washington house; well-known place, close to the
 
tpalace.
 
tpalace.
The CHAIRMAN. Did the Queen have any guards about her?
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Mr. STEVENS. AS nearly as I remember the Provisional Government
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Did the Queen have any guards about her?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} As nearly as I remember the Provisional Government
 
allowed her a guard.
 
allowed her a guard.
The CHAIRMAN. Of how many ? What was your information on that
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Of how many? What was your information on that
 
subject?
 
subject?
Mr. STEVENS. I think 12.
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The CHAIRMAN. Armed men?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} I think 12.
Mr. STEVENS. I presume so; I never went to see.
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The CHAIRMAN. Were the troops taken from the organization under
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Armed men?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} I presume so; I never went to see.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Were the troops taken from the organization under
 
the authority of the Provisional Government?
 
the authority of the Provisional Government?
Mr. STEVENS. AS nearly, as I remember at first they allowed her 12
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} As nearly, as I remember at first they allowed her 12
 
of her own guards. But, of course, the Government kept an eye on
 
of her own guards. But, of course, the Government kept an eye on
 
them, and subsequently they were changed to men of the Provisional
 
them, and subsequently they were changed to men of the Provisional
 
Government.
 
Government.
The CHAIRMAN. Were they changed at the Queen's request?
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Mr. STEVENS. That I could not say. I probably knew at the time;
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Were they changed at the Queen's request?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} That I could not say. I probably knew at the time;
 
but I would not be sure. I think they were changed. They regarded
 
but I would not be sure. I think they were changed. They regarded
 
her native guard as of no consequence whatever. The reason I had
 
her native guard as of no consequence whatever. The reason I had
 
for raising the flag, I will give you in as condensed form as I have it,
 
for raising the flag, I will give you in as condensed form as I have it,
 
when you reach that.
 
when you reach that.
The CHAIRMAN. I have not reached that. I am trying to find out
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} I have not reached that. I am trying to find out
 
what the situation was at the time. Was there any interruption of the
 
what the situation was at the time. Was there any interruption of the
 
relations between the Provisional Government and the American Government
 
relations between the Provisional Government and the American Government
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during this period of time after the proclamation of the Provisional
 
during this period of time after the proclamation of the Provisional
 
Government and up to the time of the raising the flag?
 
Government and up to the time of the raising the flag?
Mr. STEVENS. I should say no interruptions; but 1 would have to
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} I should say no interruptions; but I would have to
 
give the facts, that you might understand my answer fully. That will
 
give the facts, that you might understand my answer fully. That will
 
enter right into the reasons for raising the flag. I will give those
 
enter right into the reasons for raising the flag. I will give those
 
reasons very specifically.
 
reasons very specifically.
The CHAIRMAN. There were no interruptions of the relations?
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Mr. STEVENS. DO you mean the diplomatic relations?
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} There were no interruptions of the relations?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes.
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Mr. STEVENS. Not so far as I know.
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Do you mean the diplomatic relations?
The CHAIRMAN. What Governments had recognized the Provisional
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Yes.
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Not so far as I know.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} What Governments had recognized the Provisional
 
Government before the time of the raising of this flag?
 
Government before the time of the raising of this flag?
Mr. STEVENS. Every one represented there.
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The CHAIRMAN. Which were—
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Every one represented there.
Mr. STEVENS. The English Government, the German Government,
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Which were—--
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} The English Government, the German Government,

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The Chairman. Proceeding from this period when you say there was an interregnum to the time when you ordered the American flag to be hoisted in Hawaii, I will ask you what was the condition of the people as to order and quietude and the conduct of their ordinary vocations?

Mr. Stevens. You mean between the time of the recognition of the Provisional Government and the raising of the flag?

The Chairman. Yes.

Mr. Stevens. I will say that the people were generally at their avocations, except that the citizens had constituted themselves soldiers— the men from stores, the banks, and the workshops, responsible men— were constituted the military force for the time being.

The Chairman. To what extent had this volunteer military organization increased?

Mr. Stevens. Volunteer and otherwise I could not tell precisely; but I should say all the way from 400 to 600 men.

The Chairman. Armed men?

Mr. Stevens. Men they could place arms with. They were white men accustomed to the use of muskets. But the men actually on military duty probably would not be half that number.

The Chairman. Were the men organized for the purpose of repressing mobs and incendiarism, or organized and armed for the purpose of supporting the Provisional Government?

Mr. Stevens. The public order.

The Chairman. I want to ask you whether they were organized for the purpose of preserving public order, or for the purpose of supporting the Provisional Government?

Mr. Stevens. They regarded the Provisional Government as the instrument through which they would preserve order.

The Chairman. They were considered troops of the Provisional Government?

Mr. Stevens. They were supporters of the Provisional Government.

The Chairman. Were they under the control of the Provisional Government?

Mr. Stevens. Yes. Those volunteers would never be called upon except in an emergency. They had a military force which was disciplined, and they had this force from the workshops.

The Chairman. What was the number of the disciplined force?

Mr. Stevens. I could not speak with accuracy at this moment.

The Chairman. What is your opinion?

Mr. Stevens. I should say 150 men—possibly 200.

The Chairman. Were they organized in military companies?

Mr. Stevens. Military companies.

The Chairman. Under the command of Col. Soper?

Mr. Stevens. Under Col. Soper, I think.

The Chairman. Were there captains of companies?

Mr. Stevens. I do not know Capt. Ziegler; but I think he was the captain of the German company at the Government house.

The Chairman. Were there other captains?

Mr. Stevens. Yes. I think there was another captain, Fisher, from one of the banks, who was the captain at the barracks; the third company, Capt. Goud.

The Chairman. In that period which you call the interregnum, was there any outbreak?

Mr. Stevens. There was no outbreak; they feared an outbreak.

The Chairman. Was there any demonstration to show that an outbreak was contemplated?

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Mr. Stevens. I think their fears came from private information. I think there was no external signs of it. Of course the authorities put themselves as much in touch with the facts as they possibly could, and they sometimes may have been alarmed unduly, as men would be in such circumstances.

The Chairman. Did you believe that there was a general public apprehension in that time, covering the period that I have just referred to, of any armed demonstration against the Provisional Government, or any incendiarism, or any mob violence?

Mr. Stevens. Yes; very strong; so strong they got information that they barricaded the Government building and got ready for anything. It is very likely half the time that the alarms were bogus?

The Chairman. During this period of time where was the Queen?

Mr. Stevens. The Queen was in her Washington house. That was the house left to her by her husband, and by the husband's mother left to him. It is the Washington house; well-known place, close to the tpalace.

The Chairman. Did the Queen have any guards about her?

Mr. Stevens. As nearly as I remember the Provisional Government allowed her a guard.

The Chairman. Of how many? What was your information on that subject?

Mr. Stevens. I think 12.

The Chairman. Armed men?

Mr. Stevens. I presume so; I never went to see.

The Chairman. Were the troops taken from the organization under the authority of the Provisional Government?

Mr. Stevens. As nearly, as I remember at first they allowed her 12 of her own guards. But, of course, the Government kept an eye on them, and subsequently they were changed to men of the Provisional Government.

The Chairman. Were they changed at the Queen's request?

Mr. Stevens. That I could not say. I probably knew at the time; but I would not be sure. I think they were changed. They regarded her native guard as of no consequence whatever. The reason I had for raising the flag, I will give you in as condensed form as I have it, when you reach that.

The Chairman. I have not reached that. I am trying to find out what the situation was at the time. Was there any interruption of the relations between the Provisional Government and the American Government or between the Provisional Government and any foreign government during this period of time after the proclamation of the Provisional Government and up to the time of the raising the flag?

Mr. Stevens. I should say no interruptions; but I would have to give the facts, that you might understand my answer fully. That will enter right into the reasons for raising the flag. I will give those reasons very specifically.

The Chairman. There were no interruptions of the relations?

Mr. Stevens. Do you mean the diplomatic relations?

The Chairman. Yes.

Mr. Stevens. Not so far as I know.

The Chairman. What Governments had recognized the Provisional Government before the time of the raising of this flag?

Mr. Stevens. Every one represented there.

The Chairman. Which were—--

Mr. Stevens. The English Government, the German Government,