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the declaration of the Provisional Government, that there was any white
 
the declaration of the Provisional Government, that there was any white
 
organization being attempted against the Provisional Government?
 
organization being attempted against the Provisional Government?
Mr. STEVENS. My information was to the effect that the same men -who
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} My information was to the effect that the same men who
 
put the lottery bill through, what they called the lottery and opium men,
 
put the lottery bill through, what they called the lottery and opium men,
 
had been acting together for a good while.
 
had been acting together for a good while.
The CHAIRMAN. Bid you hear of any attempt at organization amongst
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Did you hear of any attempt at organization amongst
 
these, people, or any other white people, to overthrow or dislodge the
 
these, people, or any other white people, to overthrow or dislodge the
 
Provisional Government, or impair it?
 
Provisional Government, or impair it?
Mr. STEVENS. Those rumors of attempt to overthrow the Provisional
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Those rumors of attempt to overthrow the Provisional
 
Government? They were constantly getting information of attempts to
 
Government? They were constantly getting information of attempts to
 
do it.
 
do it.
The CHAIRMAN. Attempts to do what, to form an organization?
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Mr. STEVENS. TO catch them unawares—to surprise the Provisional
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Attempts to do what, to form an organization?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} To catch them unawares—to surprise the Provisional
 
Government.
 
Government.
The CHAIRMAN. Did you understand from any information that you
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Did you understand from any information that you
 
had—of course anything like a reliable character—that there existed
 
had—of course anything like a reliable character—that there existed
 
an organization?
 
an organization?
Mr. STEVENS. I should say that my information is that there are two
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} I should say that my information is that there are two
 
or three organizations, mainly political. They have one organization
 
or three organizations, mainly political. They have one organization
 
called the Native Hawaiians; they have another, with a native name.
 
called the Native Hawaiians; they have another, with a native name.
The CHAIRMAN. Are they natives?
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Mr. STEVENS. They are natives. They have political organizations
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Are they natives?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} They are natives. They have political organizations
 
among themselves.
 
among themselves.
The CHAIRMAN. State any other.
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Mr. STEVENS. They had at one time what they called the "Liberty
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} State any other.
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} They had at one time what they called the "Liberty
 
League"; but I think that is disbanded. Those cliques have run
 
League"; but I think that is disbanded. Those cliques have run
 
together; but the same men can extemporize an organization within a
 
together; but the same men can extemporize an organization within a
 
week; because they drift together as naturally as similar men in our
 
week; because they drift together as naturally as similar men in our
 
cities.
 
cities.
The CHAIRMAN. I will try to get back to the question whether you
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} I will try to get back to the question whether you
 
know or had any information of the existence of an organization
 
know or had any information of the existence of an organization
 
amongst the white people in Hawaii against the Provisional Government?
 
amongst the white people in Hawaii against the Provisional Government?
Air. STEVENS. Yes. . .
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The CHAIRMAN. What was it?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Yes.
Mr. STEVENS. I have forgotten the name of it; I think it is "Liberty
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} What was it?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} I have forgotten the name of it; I think it is "Liberty
 
League." But they had so many names that I can not remember; but
 
League." But they had so many names that I can not remember; but
 
I think it was "Liberty League."
 
I think it was "Liberty League."
The CHAIRMAN. Who was the leader of that organization, if it had
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Who was the leader of that organization, if it had
 
any?
 
any?
Mr. STEVENS. It was understood that Mr. Colburn and Mr. Peterson
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} It was understood that Mr. Colburn and Mr. Peterson
 
were in it.
 
were in it.
The CHAIRMAN. I am speaking of the time that this Provisional
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} I am speaking of the time that this Provisional
 
Government was established.
 
Government was established.
Mr. STEVENS. I have no doubt that those things have varied so that
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} I have no doubt that those things have varied so that
 
there would be one clique in the League and then another clique.
 
there would be one clique in the League and then another clique.
The CHAIRMAN. I am speaking of the time of the organization of the
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} I am speaking of the time of the organization of the
 
Provisional Government, not any anterior time.
 
Provisional Government, not any anterior time.
Mr. STEVENS. Those since the Provisional Government was established
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Those since the Provisional Government was established
 
would be the same as they had before.
 
would be the same as they had before.
The CHAIRMAN. IS there such an organization?
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Mr. STEVENS. There are several organizations of years' standing.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Is there such an organization?
The CHAIRMAN. IS there now in existence, or was there at any time
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} There are several organizations of years' standing.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Is there now in existence, or was there at any time
 
while you were in Hawaii, any political organization of white men for
 
while you were in Hawaii, any political organization of white men for
 
the purpose of antagonizing and breaking down that Provisional Government.
 
the purpose of antagonizing and breaking down that Provisional Government.
 
Can you answer that?
 
Can you answer that?
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Mr. STEVENS. I can give my opinion.
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} I can give my opinion.
The CHAIRMAN. I do not want your naked opinion. I want your
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} I do not want your naked opinion. I want your
 
information.
 
information.
Mr. STEVENS. My information is that the men who controlled the
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} My information is that the men who controlled the
 
Queen's Government mainly, and ever since she was in, have acted
 
Queen's Government mainly, and ever since she was in, have acted
 
together so often that that is virtually an organization.
 
together so often that that is virtually an organization.
The CHAIRMAN. DO you understand that there is such an organization
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Do you understand that there is such an organization
 
existing in Hawaii to-day?
 
existing in Hawaii to-day?
Mr. STEVENS. 1 have no doubt that it exists to-day.
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The CHAIRMAN. Do you know anything about it?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} I have no doubt that it exists to-day.
Mr. STEVENS. I have no doubt it does.
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The CHAIRMAN. Have you any information about it?
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Do you know anything about it?
Mr. STEVENS. NO ; I see in Mr. Blount's report—
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The CHAIRMAN. I am not speaking of Mr. Blount's report.
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} I have no doubt it does.
Mr. STEVENS. I knew it was when I left.
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The CHAIRMAN. I want to get at the proposition whether or not
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Have you any information about it?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} No; I see in Mr. Blount's report—--
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} I am not speaking of Mr. Blount's report.
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} I knew it was when I left.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} I want to get at the proposition whether or not
 
there is any hostile opposition to the Provisional Government existing
 
there is any hostile opposition to the Provisional Government existing
 
amongst the white people of Hawaii at this time, or was when you left
 
amongst the white people of Hawaii at this time, or was when you left
 
there.
 
there.
Mr. STEVENS. I have no doubt there is. 1 have no doubt the men
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} I have no doubt there is. I have no doubt the men
 
who acted before are acting now.
 
who acted before are acting now.
The CHAIRMAN. I want your information, if you have any information
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} I want your information, if you have any information
 
about it.
 
about it.
Mr. STEVENS. I have no information that an organization exists
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} I have no information that an organization exists
 
sincel left there, because that was six or eight months ago.
 
sincel left there, because that was six or eight months ago.
The CHAIRMAN. When you were there did. it exist?
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Mr. STEVENS. It existed.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} When you were there did it exist?
The CHAIRMAN. Who were the leaders of it?
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Mr. STEVENS. The reason I referred to Mr. Blount's report is this:
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} It existed.
Tou will find the committee, of which Mr. Cummings was one—I have
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Who were the leaders of it?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} The reason I referred to Mr. Blount's report is this:
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You will find the committee, of which Mr. Cummings was one—I have
 
understood that he was; he was one of the leading members. That
 
understood that he was; he was one of the leading members. That
 
was one organization. Then another organization is the one that
 
was one organization. Then another organization is the one that
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of a political organization under Kalakaua, and it is possibly in existence
 
of a political organization under Kalakaua, and it is possibly in existence
 
to-day, for it has been in existence for years.
 
to-day, for it has been in existence for years.
The CHAIRMAN. I am trying to ask you of organizations formed for
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} I am trying to ask you of organizations formed for
 
the purpose of opposing the Provisional Government.
 
the purpose of opposing the Provisional Government.
Mr. STEVENS. I can not say that there is any such organization; I
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} I can not say that there is any such organization; I
 
can only reason from cause to effect—that those organizations would
 
can only reason from cause to effect—that those organizations would
 
be hostile to the Provisional Government.
 
be hostile to the Provisional Government.
The CHAIRMAN. TOU are not aware of the existence of any such
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} You are not aware of the existence of any such
 
organization now?
 
organization now?
Mr. STEVENS. No. In Mr. Blount's report I see he mentioned Mr.
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} No. In Mr. Blount's report I see he mentioned Mr.
 
Bush and Mr. Nawahi. But I can not swear to it.
 
Bush and Mr. Nawahi. But I can not swear to it.
The CHAIRMAN. NOW, what I want to get at is, whether among the
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Now, what I want to get at is, whether among the
 
white people resident in Hawaii, who are not American citizens or
 
white people resident in Hawaii, who are not American citizens or
 
persons of American origin, there exists any opposition of an organized
 
persons of American origin, there exists any opposition of an organized
 
character, whether political or military, against the Provisional Government.
 
character, whether political or military, against the Provisional Government.
Mr. STEVENS. What exists to-day? I cannot testify to that.
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The CHAIRMAN. Was there in your knowledge at the time you left
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} What exists to-day? I cannot testify to that.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Was there in your knowledge at the time you left
 
there?
 
there?
Mr. STEVENS. Only as it appeared in the papers.
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The CHAIRMAN. Did it appear?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Only as it appeared in the papers.
Mr. STEVENS. Yes. You will see it in Mr. Blount's report, and that
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Did it appear?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Yes. You will see it in Mr. Blount's report, and that

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the declaration of the Provisional Government, that there was any white organization being attempted against the Provisional Government?

Mr. Stevens. My information was to the effect that the same men who put the lottery bill through, what they called the lottery and opium men, had been acting together for a good while.

The Chairman. Did you hear of any attempt at organization amongst these, people, or any other white people, to overthrow or dislodge the Provisional Government, or impair it?

Mr. Stevens. Those rumors of attempt to overthrow the Provisional Government? They were constantly getting information of attempts to do it.

The Chairman. Attempts to do what, to form an organization?

Mr. Stevens. To catch them unawares—to surprise the Provisional Government.

The Chairman. Did you understand from any information that you had—of course anything like a reliable character—that there existed an organization?

Mr. Stevens. I should say that my information is that there are two or three organizations, mainly political. They have one organization called the Native Hawaiians; they have another, with a native name.

The Chairman. Are they natives?

Mr. Stevens. They are natives. They have political organizations among themselves.

The Chairman. State any other.

Mr. Stevens. They had at one time what they called the "Liberty League"; but I think that is disbanded. Those cliques have run together; but the same men can extemporize an organization within a week; because they drift together as naturally as similar men in our cities.

The Chairman. I will try to get back to the question whether you know or had any information of the existence of an organization amongst the white people in Hawaii against the Provisional Government?

Mr. Stevens. Yes.

The Chairman. What was it?

Mr. Stevens. I have forgotten the name of it; I think it is "Liberty League." But they had so many names that I can not remember; but I think it was "Liberty League."

The Chairman. Who was the leader of that organization, if it had any?

Mr. Stevens. It was understood that Mr. Colburn and Mr. Peterson were in it.

The Chairman. I am speaking of the time that this Provisional Government was established.

Mr. Stevens. I have no doubt that those things have varied so that there would be one clique in the League and then another clique.

The Chairman. I am speaking of the time of the organization of the Provisional Government, not any anterior time.

Mr. Stevens. Those since the Provisional Government was established would be the same as they had before.

The Chairman. Is there such an organization?

Mr. Stevens. There are several organizations of years' standing.

The Chairman. Is there now in existence, or was there at any time while you were in Hawaii, any political organization of white men for the purpose of antagonizing and breaking down that Provisional Government. Can you answer that?

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Mr. Stevens. I can give my opinion.

The Chairman. I do not want your naked opinion. I want your information.

Mr. Stevens. My information is that the men who controlled the Queen's Government mainly, and ever since she was in, have acted together so often that that is virtually an organization.

The Chairman. Do you understand that there is such an organization existing in Hawaii to-day?

Mr. Stevens. I have no doubt that it exists to-day.

The Chairman. Do you know anything about it?

Mr. Stevens. I have no doubt it does.

The Chairman. Have you any information about it?

Mr. Stevens. No; I see in Mr. Blount's report—--

The Chairman. I am not speaking of Mr. Blount's report.

Mr. Stevens. I knew it was when I left.

The Chairman. I want to get at the proposition whether or not there is any hostile opposition to the Provisional Government existing amongst the white people of Hawaii at this time, or was when you left there.

Mr. Stevens. I have no doubt there is. I have no doubt the men who acted before are acting now.

The Chairman. I want your information, if you have any information about it.

Mr. Stevens. I have no information that an organization exists sincel left there, because that was six or eight months ago.

The Chairman. When you were there did it exist?

Mr. Stevens. It existed.

The Chairman. Who were the leaders of it?

Mr. Stevens. The reason I referred to Mr. Blount's report is this: You will find the committee, of which Mr. Cummings was one—I have understood that he was; he was one of the leading members. That was one organization. Then another organization is the one that Nawahi was at the head of. When I was there he was one of the leaders of a political organization under Kalakaua, and it is possibly in existence to-day, for it has been in existence for years.

The Chairman. I am trying to ask you of organizations formed for the purpose of opposing the Provisional Government.

Mr. Stevens. I can not say that there is any such organization; I can only reason from cause to effect—that those organizations would be hostile to the Provisional Government.

The Chairman. You are not aware of the existence of any such organization now?

Mr. Stevens. No. In Mr. Blount's report I see he mentioned Mr. Bush and Mr. Nawahi. But I can not swear to it.

The Chairman. Now, what I want to get at is, whether among the white people resident in Hawaii, who are not American citizens or persons of American origin, there exists any opposition of an organized character, whether political or military, against the Provisional Government.

Mr. Stevens. What exists to-day? I cannot testify to that.

The Chairman. Was there in your knowledge at the time you left there?

Mr. Stevens. Only as it appeared in the papers.

The Chairman. Did it appear?

Mr. Stevens. Yes. You will see it in Mr. Blount's report, and that