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Mr. MOORE. The troops landed about half past 4 on Mon flay, the
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Mr. {{sc|Moore.}} The troops landed about half past 4 on Monday, the
16tl), and the Provisional Government was not declared until Tuesday,
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16th, and the Provisional Government was not declared until Tuesday,
 
the 17th, about 3 o'clock.
 
the 17th, about 3 o'clock.
The CHAIRMAN. DO you know of any recall of the troops to the ship
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in that interval of time, or whether they had started to debark ?
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Do you know of any recall of the troops to the ship
Mr. MOORE. NO ; nothing of the kind. If there had been I would
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in that interval of time, or whether they had started to debark?
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Mr. {{sc|Moore.}} No; nothing of the kind. If there had been I would
 
have heard of it, being the executive officer, the one who carries out
 
have heard of it, being the executive officer, the one who carries out
 
the orders of the commanding officer.
 
the orders of the commanding officer.
The CHAIRMAN. Do you think you would have known if any organization
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Do you think you would have known if any organization
 
had existed in Honolulu to overthrow the government of the
 
had existed in Honolulu to overthrow the government of the
 
Queen, or any organization for annexation to the United States up to, we
 
Queen, or any organization for annexation to the United States up to, we
 
will say, Monday, until you returned to the ship? Do you think you
 
will say, Monday, until you returned to the ship? Do you think you
would have known it had it existed among the people of Honolulu ?
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would have known it had it existed among the people of Honolulu?
Mr. MOORE. Do you mean between Saturday and Monday?
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The CHAIRMAN. Yes.
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Mr. {{sc|Moore.}} Do you mean between Saturday and Monday?
Mr. MOORE. An organization undoubtedly did exist Saturday afternoon.
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The CHAIRMAN. The committee of safety?
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Yes.
Mr. MOORE. The committee of safety. And that organization was
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Mr. {{sc|Moore.}} An organization undoubtedly did exist Saturday afternoon.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} The committee of safety?
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Mr. {{sc|Moore.}} The committee of safety. And that organization was
 
generally known. But what the object of that organization was I did
 
generally known. But what the object of that organization was I did
 
not hear.
 
not hear.
The CHAIRMAN. I speak more particularly of an organization to overthrow
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} I speak more particularly of an organization to overthrow
 
the Queen, or an organization for annexation to the United States.
 
the Queen, or an organization for annexation to the United States.
 
Did you hear of anything of that sort, while you were on shore, as being
 
Did you hear of anything of that sort, while you were on shore, as being
consummated or in process of consummation ?
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consummated or in process of consummation?
Mr. MOORE. I heard annexation to the United States talked of that
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Mr. {{sc|Moore.}} I heard annexation to the United States talked of that
 
Saturday afternoon.
 
Saturday afternoon.
The CHAIRMAN. But you heard that twenty years ago?
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Mr. MOORE. I heard the same thing twenty years before.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} But you heard that twenty years ago?
The CHAIRMAN. I am speaking now of an actual, open organization
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Mr. {{sc|Moore.}} I heard the same thing twenty years before.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} I am speaking now of an actual, open organization
 
to overthrow the Queen, or an open organization to annex Hawaii to
 
to overthrow the Queen, or an open organization to annex Hawaii to
 
the United States. If there had been such an organization on Sunday
 
the United States. If there had been such an organization on Sunday
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when you went over to your house and Monday when you returned on
 
when you went over to your house and Monday when you returned on
 
board ship?
 
board ship?
Mr. MOORE. I had heard of the organization of the committee of
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Mr. {{sc|Moore.}} I had heard of the organization of the committee of
 
safety on Saturday, the 14th.
 
safety on Saturday, the 14th.
The CHAIRMAN. The question is, whether you heard that it was an
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} The question is, whether you heard that it was an
 
organization for overthrowing the Queen and the annexation of Hawaii
 
organization for overthrowing the Queen and the annexation of Hawaii
 
to the United States.
 
to the United States.
Mr. MOORE. My understanding was that it was in opposition to the
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Mr. {{sc|Moore.}} My understanding was that it was in opposition to the
 
Queen.
 
Queen.
The CHAIRMAN. That was the beginning of it?
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Mr. MOORE. That was the beginning of it. I do not recollect hearing
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} That was the beginning of it?
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Mr. {{sc|Moore.}} That was the beginning of it. I do not recollect hearing
 
of any organization at that time for annexation to the United
 
of any organization at that time for annexation to the United
 
States, although annexation was spoken of quite freely, and a desire
 
States, although annexation was spoken of quite freely, and a desire
 
for it expressed on the streets by the business men.
 
for it expressed on the streets by the business men.
The CHAIRMAN. Before the Boston went on that cruise to Hilo you
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Before the ''Boston'' went on that cruise to Hilo you
 
did not hear of any such organization?
 
did not hear of any such organization?
Mr. MOORE. I did not.
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The CHAIRMAN. DO you think if it had existed you would have
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Mr. {{sc|Moore.}} I did not.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Do you think if it had existed you would have
 
known it?
 
known it?
Mr. MOORE. I think if such an organization had existed before our
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Mr. {{sc|Moore.}} I think if such an organization had existed before our
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departure for Hilo I would have known something of it; but not necessarily
 
departure for Hilo I would have known something of it; but not necessarily
 
so.
 
so.
The CHAIRMAN. NO; but you had good opportunities?
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Mr. MOORE. I was quite intimate with several of the gentlemen who
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} No; but you had good opportunities?
•were afterward engaged in this movement, and I never heard such a
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Mr. {{sc|Moore.}} I was quite intimate with several of the gentlemen who
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were afterward engaged in this movement, and I never heard such a
 
thing intimated.
 
thing intimated.
The CHAIRMAN. HOW did matters progress in Hawaii after the
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} How did matters progress in Hawaii after the
 
establishment of the Provisional Government, with regard to the preservation
 
establishment of the Provisional Government, with regard to the preservation
 
of law and order?
 
of law and order?
Mr. MOORE. Exceedingly well, so far as I knew. For a little while
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at lirst there was considerable excitement, much anxiety. The fears
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Mr. {{sc|Moore.}} Exceedingly well, so far as I knew. For a little while
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at first there was considerable excitement, much anxiety. The fears
 
that I heard expressed were of incendiarism by the natives; but I only
 
that I heard expressed were of incendiarism by the natives; but I only
 
heard a few cases where incendiarism was suspected. But I do not
 
heard a few cases where incendiarism was suspected. But I do not
 
know whether the fire was caused by incendiarism or in the ordinary
 
know whether the fire was caused by incendiarism or in the ordinary
 
way—through carelessness.
 
way—through carelessness.
The CHAIRMAN. After the Provisional Government had been inaugurated,
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} After the Provisional Government had been inaugurated,
 
taken possession of the barracks, etc., did you hear of any
 
taken possession of the barracks, etc., did you hear of any
 
attempted organization on the part of the Queen's friends to have a
 
attempted organization on the part of the Queen's friends to have a
 
conflict with the Provisional Government and overturn it?
 
conflict with the Provisional Government and overturn it?
Mr. MOORE. I heard frequent rumors of organizations.
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The CHAIRMAN. Did you see any evidence of their being real?
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Mr. {{sc|Moore.}} I heard frequent rumors of organizations.
Mr. MOORE. I did not.
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The CHAIRMAN. How would you describe the situation there?
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Did you see any evidence of their being real?
Mr. MOORE. Almost doubted their existence.
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The CHAIRMAN. I suppose that was because you found that everything
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Mr. {{sc|Moore.}} I did not.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} How would you describe the situation there?
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Mr. {{sc|Moore.}} Almost doubted their existence.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} I suppose that was because you found that everything
 
was conducted peacefully and quietly?
 
was conducted peacefully and quietly?
Mr. MOORE. Yes; I did not think that an organization of that kind
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Mr. {{sc|Moore.}} Yes; I did not think that an organization of that kind
 
could be successful.
 
could be successful.
The CHAIRMAN. Why not?
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Mr. MOORE. Because the Provisional Government, after it was once
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Why not?
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Mr. {{sc|Moore.}} Because the Provisional Government, after it was once
 
established, had the arms and munitions of war. They had control of
 
established, had the arms and munitions of war. They had control of
 
the custom-house and of the other offices, not only over these islands
 
the custom-house and of the other offices, not only over these islands
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into the islands without the knowledge of the officers of the Provisional
 
into the islands without the knowledge of the officers of the Provisional
 
Government, and I did not think that Government was foolish enough
 
Government, and I did not think that Government was foolish enough
to let arms go into the hands of the other people. What I did think oi
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to let arms go into the hands of the other people. What I did think of
 
was incendiarism.
 
was incendiarism.
The CHAIRMAN. Now, take the condition that the Hawaiian Islands
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Now, take the condition that the Hawaiian Islands
 
was in, and Honolulu particularly, after the establishment of this Provisional
 
was in, and Honolulu particularly, after the establishment of this Provisional
 
Government, and up to the time you left the island, do you
 
Government, and up to the time you left the island, do you
 
think the Queen could have overcome that Provisional Government
 
think the Queen could have overcome that Provisional Government
 
without the assistance of some foreign power?
 
without the assistance of some foreign power?
Mr. MOORE. I do not think so.
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The CHAIRMAN. It would have been a rash endeavor on her part to
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Mr. {{sc|Moore.}} I do not think so.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} It would have been a rash endeavor on her part to
 
have attempted it?
 
have attempted it?
Mr. MOORE. A very rash endeavor.
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The CHAIRMAN. SO that you regard the Provisional Government,
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Mr. {{sc|Moore.}} A very rash endeavor.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} So that you regard the Provisional Government,
 
with the resources that it had—men, arms, and money—as being able
 
with the resources that it had—men, arms, and money—as being able
 
to sustain itself against any forces the Queen could have organized upon
 
to sustain itself against any forces the Queen could have organized upon
 
her own resources and without assistance from abroad?
 
her own resources and without assistance from abroad?
Mr. MOORE. I did—undoubtedly so.
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The CHAIRMAN. I suppose the ladies of Honolulu have their social
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Mr. {{sc|Moore.}} I did—undoubtedly so.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} I suppose the ladies of Honolulu have their social
 
meetings and entertainments as they do in other parts of the world?
 
meetings and entertainments as they do in other parts of the world?
Mr. MOORE. Yes; they are very sociable and agreeable. A charming
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society as you can feixnids tisn thaneyre s; maanll ecdoumcamteudn iatyn.d elegant society, as much so
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Mr. {{sc|Moore.}} Yes; they are very sociable and agreeable. A charming
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society exists there; an educated and elegant society, as much so
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as you can find in any small community.

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Mr. Moore. The troops landed about half past 4 on Monday, the 16th, and the Provisional Government was not declared until Tuesday, the 17th, about 3 o'clock.

The Chairman. Do you know of any recall of the troops to the ship in that interval of time, or whether they had started to debark?

Mr. Moore. No; nothing of the kind. If there had been I would have heard of it, being the executive officer, the one who carries out the orders of the commanding officer.

The Chairman. Do you think you would have known if any organization had existed in Honolulu to overthrow the government of the Queen, or any organization for annexation to the United States up to, we will say, Monday, until you returned to the ship? Do you think you would have known it had it existed among the people of Honolulu?

Mr. Moore. Do you mean between Saturday and Monday?

The Chairman. Yes.

Mr. Moore. An organization undoubtedly did exist Saturday afternoon.

The Chairman. The committee of safety?

Mr. Moore. The committee of safety. And that organization was generally known. But what the object of that organization was I did not hear.

The Chairman. I speak more particularly of an organization to overthrow the Queen, or an organization for annexation to the United States. Did you hear of anything of that sort, while you were on shore, as being consummated or in process of consummation?

Mr. Moore. I heard annexation to the United States talked of that Saturday afternoon.

The Chairman. But you heard that twenty years ago?

Mr. Moore. I heard the same thing twenty years before.

The Chairman. I am speaking now of an actual, open organization to overthrow the Queen, or an open organization to annex Hawaii to the United States. If there had been such an organization on Sunday evening and Monday morning when you visited home, do you think you would have known it—I mean if it had existed in that form?. Perhaps I can make my question a little more distinct. You had heard of the organization of the committee of safety between Sunday evening when you went over to your house and Monday when you returned on board ship?

Mr. Moore. I had heard of the organization of the committee of safety on Saturday, the 14th.

The Chairman. The question is, whether you heard that it was an organization for overthrowing the Queen and the annexation of Hawaii to the United States.

Mr. Moore. My understanding was that it was in opposition to the Queen.

The Chairman. That was the beginning of it?

Mr. Moore. That was the beginning of it. I do not recollect hearing of any organization at that time for annexation to the United States, although annexation was spoken of quite freely, and a desire for it expressed on the streets by the business men.

The Chairman. Before the Boston went on that cruise to Hilo you did not hear of any such organization?

Mr. Moore. I did not.

The Chairman. Do you think if it had existed you would have known it?

Mr. Moore. I think if such an organization had existed before our

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departure for Hilo I would have known something of it; but not necessarily so.

The Chairman. No; but you had good opportunities?

Mr. Moore. I was quite intimate with several of the gentlemen who were afterward engaged in this movement, and I never heard such a thing intimated.

The Chairman. How did matters progress in Hawaii after the establishment of the Provisional Government, with regard to the preservation of law and order?

Mr. Moore. Exceedingly well, so far as I knew. For a little while at first there was considerable excitement, much anxiety. The fears that I heard expressed were of incendiarism by the natives; but I only heard a few cases where incendiarism was suspected. But I do not know whether the fire was caused by incendiarism or in the ordinary way—through carelessness.

The Chairman. After the Provisional Government had been inaugurated, taken possession of the barracks, etc., did you hear of any attempted organization on the part of the Queen's friends to have a conflict with the Provisional Government and overturn it?

Mr. Moore. I heard frequent rumors of organizations.

The Chairman. Did you see any evidence of their being real?

Mr. Moore. I did not.

The Chairman. How would you describe the situation there?

Mr. Moore. Almost doubted their existence.

The Chairman. I suppose that was because you found that everything was conducted peacefully and quietly?

Mr. Moore. Yes; I did not think that an organization of that kind could be successful.

The Chairman. Why not?

Mr. Moore. Because the Provisional Government, after it was once established, had the arms and munitions of war. They had control of the custom-house and of the other offices, not only over these islands but the other islands; and I saw no way in which arms could be gotten into the islands without the knowledge of the officers of the Provisional Government, and I did not think that Government was foolish enough to let arms go into the hands of the other people. What I did think of was incendiarism.

The Chairman. Now, take the condition that the Hawaiian Islands was in, and Honolulu particularly, after the establishment of this Provisional Government, and up to the time you left the island, do you think the Queen could have overcome that Provisional Government without the assistance of some foreign power?

Mr. Moore. I do not think so.

The Chairman. It would have been a rash endeavor on her part to have attempted it?

Mr. Moore. A very rash endeavor.

The Chairman. So that you regard the Provisional Government, with the resources that it had—men, arms, and money—as being able to sustain itself against any forces the Queen could have organized upon her own resources and without assistance from abroad?

Mr. Moore. I did—undoubtedly so.

The Chairman. I suppose the ladies of Honolulu have their social meetings and entertainments as they do in other parts of the world?

Mr. Moore. Yes; they are very sociable and agreeable. A charming society exists there; an educated and elegant society, as much so as you can find in any small community.