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is what I referred to. Mr. Cummings is in it, and Mr. Nawahi. It ran,
 
is what I referred to. Mr. Cummings is in it, and Mr. Nawahi. It ran,
 
to some degree, all over the islands. But I can not say that it exists
 
to some degree, all over the islands. But I can not say that it exists
 
to day.
 
to day.
The CHAIRMAN. I want to know now whether any of these foreign
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} I want to know now whether any of these foreign
 
people who are not Americans had any organization or association,
 
people who are not Americans had any organization or association,
 
within your knowledge, to oppose the Provisional Government of
 
within your knowledge, to oppose the Provisional Government of
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of the United States, either in the conduct of its current affairs or in
 
of the United States, either in the conduct of its current affairs or in
 
the ultimate purpose of annexation ?
 
the ultimate purpose of annexation ?
Mr. STEVENS. I will begin with the Portuguese first; I will take
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them seriatim.
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} I will begin with the Portuguese first; I will take
The CHAIRMAN. No; answer the question.
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them ''seriatim''.
Mr. STEVENS. No, I could not give any information to which I could
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} No; answer the question.
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} No, I could not give any information to which I could
 
testify. If you want to know the attitude of these different populations
 
testify. If you want to know the attitude of these different populations
 
I will give it to you.
 
I will give it to you.
The CHAIRMAN. I have understood that some Germans are for us
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and some against us ?
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} I have understood that some Germans are for us
Mr. STEVENS. AS you have asked the question, let me answer it in
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and some against us?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} As you have asked the question, let me answer it in
 
a way that will enlighten it.
 
a way that will enlighten it.
Senator GRAY. The question is, whether you have any knowledge
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Senator {{sc|Gray.}} The question is, whether you have any knowledge
 
or information of any such association or combination?
 
or information of any such association or combination?
Mr. STEVENS. I will begin with the Portuguese, which were far the
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} I will begin with the Portuguese, which were far the
 
more numerous Caucasian population there; the Germans and English
 
more numerous Caucasian population there; the Germans and English
 
were smaller in numbers. The Portuguese number from 9,000 to 10,000.
 
were smaller in numbers. The Portuguese number from 9,000 to 10,000.
 
They are nearly, if not quite, a unit for America and for annexation.
 
They are nearly, if not quite, a unit for America and for annexation.
Why is it so ? The young men have been educated in American schools,
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Why is it so? The young men have been educated in American schools,
 
which are as positive in their American character as you can find in
 
which are as positive in their American character as you can find in
 
any of our American cities. Nearly all these Portuguese came from
 
any of our American cities. Nearly all these Portuguese came from
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New York—they know that their business and their future interests
 
New York—they know that their business and their future interests
 
are entirely with us. They all talk English, and they are like Americans.
 
are entirely with us. They all talk English, and they are like Americans.
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Take the English. A majority of the English affiliate with us.
 
Take the English. A majority of the English affiliate with us.
 
Why? For the reason that they do all their business with California,
 
Why? For the reason that they do all their business with California,
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one familiar with the political organizations in the cities of the United
 
one familiar with the political organizations in the cities of the United
 
States knows what that is.
 
States knows what that is.
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They have what is called the hoodlum element in Honolulu. Pay
 
They have what is called the hoodlum element in Honolulu. Pay
 
them and you will have them. But what are called the missionary
 
them and you will have them. But what are called the missionary
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lottery stock, and those who would not have lottery stock got cash
 
lottery stock, and those who would not have lottery stock got cash
 
down.
 
down.
The CHAIRMAN. YOU have made that statement. Do you know anything
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} You have made that statement. Do you know anything
 
of the payment of lottery stock or money to carry through the
 
of the payment of lottery stock or money to carry through the
 
lottery scheme?
 
lottery scheme?
Mr. STEVENS. I will answer the best I can. The facts are as notorious
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} I will answer the best I can. The facts are as notorious
 
as they would be in any American capital where anything of the
 
as they would be in any American capital where anything of the
 
kind had been going on for years. I will give you this fact, and I will
 
kind had been going on for years. I will give you this fact, and I will
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far as I know. He is a member if the Provisional Government. The
 
far as I know. He is a member if the Provisional Government. The
 
day before the lottery cabinet was appointed, which must have been
 
day before the lottery cabinet was appointed, which must have been
the day before the coming back of the Boston, Emuleuth went into a
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the day before the coming back of the ''Boston'', Emuleuth went into a
 
commercial house in Honolulu, and as he was going upstairs, he heard
 
commercial house in Honolulu, and as he was going upstairs, he heard
 
Peterson and Colburn talking. Peterson did not want to put Colburn
 
Peterson and Colburn talking. Peterson did not want to put Colburn
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this way: "Peterson, I paid this money, and if you don't put me in
 
this way: "Peterson, I paid this money, and if you don't put me in
 
the cabinet, I will join the other side and blow you to hell."
 
the cabinet, I will join the other side and blow you to hell."
The CHAIRMAN. Emuleuth gave you this information?
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Mr. STEVENS. Emuleuth.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Emuleuth gave you this information?
The CHAIRMAN. When ?
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Mr. STEVENS. He gave that to me some days after the overthrow
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Emuleuth.
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} When ?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} He gave that to me some days after the overthrow
 
of the Government.
 
of the Government.
The CHAIRMAN. When?
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Mr. STEVENS. A week or ten days after the overthrow; merely as a
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} When?
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} A week or ten days after the overthrow; merely as a
 
historical fact, he gave it to me.
 
historical fact, he gave it to me.
The CHAIRMAN. Prior to the time of your leaving Honolulu on the
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Boston, to go down to Hilo, did you have any information or reason to
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} Prior to the time of your leaving Honolulu on the
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''Boston'', to go down to Hilo, did you have any information or reason to
 
suspect that such influences were to be employed in favor of either the
 
suspect that such influences were to be employed in favor of either the
 
lottery or opium bill?
 
lottery or opium bill?
Mr. STEVENS. No; just as I stated in my opening, after the Wilcox
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} No; just as I stated in my opening, after the Wilcox
 
and Jones defeat of the lottery bill and the opium bill, I thought the
 
and Jones defeat of the lottery bill and the opium bill, I thought the
 
fate of those bills were settled, and the cabinet would be carried over
 
fate of those bills were settled, and the cabinet would be carried over
 
for eighteen months.
 
for eighteen months.
The CHAIRMAN. What information you gathered from Emuleuth or
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} What information you gathered from Emuleuth or
 
any other source in regard to corruption in the Legislature to procure
 
any other source in regard to corruption in the Legislature to procure
 
these votes of want of confidence in the ministry and for the lottery
 
these votes of want of confidence in the ministry and for the lottery
 
and opium bills was communicated to you after you returned?
 
and opium bills was communicated to you after you returned?
Mr. STEVENS. Yes, and as a matter of history. Colburn knew his
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Yes, and as a matter of history. Colburn knew his
 
power. Then Peterson said, "if we put you in, will you agree to the
 
power. Then Peterson said, "if we put you in, will you agree to the
 
constitution which the Queen is going to promulgate?" Colburn was
 
constitution which the Queen is going to promulgate?" Colburn was
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for sure." They laughed at him; but when the cabinet was constituted
 
for sure." They laughed at him; but when the cabinet was constituted
 
they went in.
 
they went in.
The CHAIRMAN. YOU, as the American minister, were forming opinions
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The {{sc|Chairman.}} You, as the American minister, were forming opinions
 
upon the public situation there?
 
upon the public situation there?
Mr. STEVENS. Public situation.
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Mr. {{sc|Stevens.}} Public situation.

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is what I referred to. Mr. Cummings is in it, and Mr. Nawahi. It ran, to some degree, all over the islands. But I can not say that it exists to day.

The Chairman. I want to know now whether any of these foreign people who are not Americans had any organization or association, within your knowledge, to oppose the Provisional Government of Hawaii, with a view to diverting Hawaii from the control or influence of the United States, either in the conduct of its current affairs or in the ultimate purpose of annexation ?

Mr. Stevens. I will begin with the Portuguese first; I will take them seriatim.

The Chairman. No; answer the question.

Mr. Stevens. No, I could not give any information to which I could testify. If you want to know the attitude of these different populations I will give it to you.

The Chairman. I have understood that some Germans are for us and some against us?

Mr. Stevens. As you have asked the question, let me answer it in a way that will enlighten it.

Senator Gray. The question is, whether you have any knowledge or information of any such association or combination?

Mr. Stevens. I will begin with the Portuguese, which were far the more numerous Caucasian population there; the Germans and English were smaller in numbers. The Portuguese number from 9,000 to 10,000. They are nearly, if not quite, a unit for America and for annexation. Why is it so? The young men have been educated in American schools, which are as positive in their American character as you can find in any of our American cities. Nearly all these Portuguese came from the Azores and Madeira poor. They saw the energy and vim of the Americans, and are largely employed by Americans. Then there is some antagonism between the Portuguese and the natives. I have stated the principal causes, and the Portuguese are a unit with us. When you come to the Germans, a very large majority is with us, except such Germans as may (and they are not very many) gather around Claus Spreckels. I will mention two German houses, at the head of which are men who have been there a long time. Their children were born there, and they expect to die there. Both those houses, and they are heavy houses, are with America, just as the English merchant is in New York—they know that their business and their future interests are entirely with us. They all talk English, and they are like Americans.

Take the English. A majority of the English affiliate with us. Why? For the reason that they do all their business with California, Washington, and Oregon. They go to American schools, and many of them have married in American families. There is Mr. Davies. He is one of the heaviest merchants, but is opposed to us having Pearl Harbor, and is very hostile to American predominance in Hawaii. With the exception of what gathers around Mr. Davies and Mr. Wodehouse (which is a very marked minority of the English), the English are with us as much as the Portuguese. When you come to the Norwegians, whose number is small, you may say it is a unit for us. Reduce the opposition to the Provisional Government to the white population, and you have the men whom the lottery and opium rings have had in their power, and who will respond to the beat of the political drum. Any one familiar with the political organizations in the cities of the United States knows what that is.

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They have what is called the hoodlum element in Honolulu. Pay them and you will have them. But what are called the missionary people are not persons to bribe voters, and if a man were to throw in $50,000 to carry a project against the missionary element, he could buy up the hoodlums, just as they bought the votes in the Legislature with lottery stock, and those who would not have lottery stock got cash down.

The Chairman. You have made that statement. Do you know anything of the payment of lottery stock or money to carry through the lottery scheme?

Mr. Stevens. I will answer the best I can. The facts are as notorious as they would be in any American capital where anything of the kind had been going on for years. I will give you this fact, and I will give you the name. Mr. Emuleuth, who is a native of Ohio, but who has been out there fifteen years, an enterprising and respectable man so far as I know. He is a member if the Provisional Government. The day before the lottery cabinet was appointed, which must have been the day before the coming back of the Boston, Emuleuth went into a commercial house in Honolulu, and as he was going upstairs, he heard Peterson and Colburn talking. Peterson did not want to put Colburn in the cabinet. Colburn had been the man who raised the money; and Emuleuth heard this as he stopped on the stairs. Colburn wanted to go into the cabinet, and Peterson was trying to reason him out of going in. Peterson knew Colburn was a hard man to carry, and it ran in this way: "Peterson, I paid this money, and if you don't put me in the cabinet, I will join the other side and blow you to hell."

The Chairman. Emuleuth gave you this information?

Mr. Stevens. Emuleuth.

The Chairman. When ?

Mr. Stevens. He gave that to me some days after the overthrow of the Government.

The Chairman. When?

Mr. Stevens. A week or ten days after the overthrow; merely as a historical fact, he gave it to me.

The Chairman. Prior to the time of your leaving Honolulu on the Boston, to go down to Hilo, did you have any information or reason to suspect that such influences were to be employed in favor of either the lottery or opium bill?

Mr. Stevens. No; just as I stated in my opening, after the Wilcox and Jones defeat of the lottery bill and the opium bill, I thought the fate of those bills were settled, and the cabinet would be carried over for eighteen months.

The Chairman. What information you gathered from Emuleuth or any other source in regard to corruption in the Legislature to procure these votes of want of confidence in the ministry and for the lottery and opium bills was communicated to you after you returned?

Mr. Stevens. Yes, and as a matter of history. Colburn knew his power. Then Peterson said, "if we put you in, will you agree to the constitution which the Queen is going to promulgate?" Colburn was opposed to it, but he answered, "damn, it, Pete; whatever you sign I will sign." Emuleuth said, "those four men were going in that cabinet for sure." They laughed at him; but when the cabinet was constituted they went in.

The Chairman. You, as the American minister, were forming opinions upon the public situation there?

Mr. Stevens. Public situation.