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Mr. Young. Kanakas and whites both, and also King street down facing Palace Square.
The Chairman. Were they making any demonstration?
Mr. Young. No.
The Chairman. Any cheering, hurrahing?
Mr. Young. No. On the contrary the natives themselves even stopped these two Kanakas from speaking. They went up and tried to stop them. One of them, named White I think, they caught him and pulled him down from the balcony, and as they did he continued to screech, out and holler his remarks as they pulled him down from the balcony.
Senator Gray. Was he sober?
Mr. Young. I do not think he was.
The Chairman. Did you get what he said after they pulled him down from the balcony?
Mr. Young. Yes. I was told that he said, "I will not stop; I will continue until we get the constitution, or we will drive every white off the island."
The Chairman. That was while the Kanakas were pulling him down from the balcony?
Mr. Young. Yes.
The Chairman. How high was that balcony where the Queen stood above the ground?
Mr. Young. About ten or fifteen feet.
The Chairman. These persons who pulled down this Mr. White, did they climb up?
Mr. Young. Yes; it is near the stairway.
The Chairman. Was the Queen near the stairway?
Mr. Young. Yes; right by the door.
The Chairman. Ss that she was accessible to the persons from the outside?
Mr. Young. Yes.
The Chairman. Did you see any of the artillery around the palace at that time?
Senator Gray. When was the first time after that that you saw these little brass pieces?
Mr. Young. It was some little time after. The new Government got them down when I saw the pieces.
Senator Butler. This was the 14th?
Mr. Young. On the 14th.
Senator Butler. The day of your arrival?
Mr. Young. Yes.
Senator Butler. What time of day?
Mr. Young. About 5 o'clock.
Senator Butler. In the afternoon?
Mr. Young. Yes.
Senator Butler. You had been in yonr uniform and attended the prorogation?
Mr. Young. Yes.
Senator Butler. And then you returned aboard ship and returned in citizen's dress ?
Mr. Young. Yes; under the orders from the captain.
Senator Butler. That was how long after the prorogation?
Mr. Young. They prorogued the Legislature about 11 o'clock; this was about 5—5 or 6 o'clock, afterwards.
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Senator Butler. After the Queen had retired from the Government building to the palace?
Mr. Young. Yes. She had gone to the palace about 1 o'clock, after the reception.
The Chairman. This collection of the people around the palace relates to the palace of Iolani?
Mr. Young. Yes.
The Chairman. Not to the Government building?
Mr. Young. Not to the Government building.
The Chairman. After the prorogation of the Legislature the Queen went to her palace?
Mr. Young. Yes. She has a place on Beretania street.
The Chairman. How far is the Queen's palace from the Legislature?
Mr. Young. About 300 to 400 yards.
The Chairman. What time did you get on board ship that evening?
Mr. Young. About a few minutes before 12 o'clock.
The Chairman. In the meantime had you received any instructions from Captain Wiltse?
Mr. Young. I simply received a return message to a message from me, telling me to continue and get all the news I could.
The Chairman. Was that a verbal message?
Mr. Young. Yes.
The Chairman. Not in writing?
Mr. Young. Not in writing.
Senator Frye. Have you completed your statement of the information you secured up to the time you went back aboard ship?
Mr. Young. Yes, that is about the whole of it.
The Chairman. That was on Saturday?
Mr. Young. Yes.
Senator Gray. The 14th of January?
Mr. Young. The 14th.
The Chairman. Did you report to Capt. Wiltse when you got back?
Mr. Young. Yes.
The Chairman. Did you give him information of what you had seen after you got on shipboard?
Mr. Young. Yes.
The Chairman. As you have stated it here?
Mr. Young. Yes.
The Chairman. Did you state to Capt. Wiltse that peace could have been preserved without the intervention of the troops?
Mr. Young. Yes; I told him there would be no trouble that day, but it would come; that from the temper of the people if the Queen attempted it there would be an uprising. I had heard conversations to that effect all over the city, even by her own adherents.
The Chairman. How long did you remain on board ship before you returned on shore?
Mr. Young. Until Monday afternoon, when I returned with the battalion.
The Chairman. Were you in command of any part of the battalion?
Mr. Young. Yes, the artillery.
The Chairman. What time did you get orders?
Mr. Young. At about half past 10 o'clock I was on duty—we were washing down ship after the cruise—about half past 10 Capt. Wiltse sent for me and told me the condition of affairs and what he had heard and it looked like they were going to have trouble; that the government
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